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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 09:59 AM
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It had been flickering last day or so, now it's just black. Is there any meaningful troubleshhoting possible?

I see used ones on Ebay for about $200. Is this a fairly easy job to replace for a newbie?

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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 10:10 AM
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OK, somebody with a link to the digi dash fixing info step forward? All references I had were buried with my HP that died.

Found it: http://www.batee.com/corvette/dcrg/repair.htm

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Old Apr 5, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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When I bought my 86 coupe, the LCDs would go in and out as you went over bumps in the road. check out this site for some great info. http://www.batee.com/corvette/dcrg/index.shtml.

I was able to repair it myself and save some major $$$$. on mine, the solder joints on the pins that connect the two circuit boards together had failed.



I re soldered them and it works perfectly now!

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Batee.com and about ~$50 (bulbs, tools etc.) will have you back up in running in no time.
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jhammons01
Batee.com and about ~$50 (bulbs, tools etc.) will have you back up in running in no time.
I researched this a little. GE891 is a $7/bulb replacement. I took my bezel off and it looks like none of the 4 bulbs work...
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Originally Posted by charv66
I researched this a little. GE891 is a $7/bulb replacement. I took my bezel off and it looks like none of the 4 bulbs work...
There is a myriad of things that can go wrong with these dashes. The bulbs. The bulb sockets. Solder points. Bad grounds. Bad LCDs.
I have been through most of them and all I can say is good luck.
It isn't that hard to take the dash out. It definitely becomes a hassle though when you have to go back in a second, third fourth.....etc.....time.
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by megtom2
There is a myriad of things that can go wrong with these dashes. The bulbs. The bulb sockets. Solder points. Bad grounds. Bad LCDs.
I have been through most of them and all I can say is good luck.
It isn't that hard to take the dash out. It definitely becomes a hassle though when you have to go back in a second, third fourth.....etc.....time.

I hear you. I expect it will come out - it is acting erratic anyways despite the lighting issue. These damn bulbs are hard to pull out - I'm using shrink wrap.
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lgolson
When I bought my 86 coupe, the LCDs would go in and out as you went over bumps in the road. check out this site for some great info. http://www.batee.com/corvette/dcrg/index.shtml.

I was able to repair it myself and save some major $$$$. on mine, the solder joints on the pins that connect the two circuit boards together had failed.



I re soldered them and it works perfectly now!

Ok I have the module out. I've taken out the seven 7/32" screws holding the top circuit board to the digital cluster case. I must be missing something...How can you remove the top circuit board with those 12 long connectors from the bottom board (you have pictured) soldered/somehow connected to the top board white connector? Are are they not soldered; should I just pull harder and they will slide out?

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Originally Posted by charv66
Ok I have the module out. I've taken out the seven 7/32" screws holding the top circuit board to the digital cluster case. I must be missing something...How can you remove the top circuit board with those 12 long connectors from the bottom board (you have pictured) soldered/somehow connected to the top board white connector? Are are they not soldered; should I just pull harder and they will slide out?
I had the same problem when I went through the dash in our 86. You have to be gentle but forcefull. If that makes any sense?? lol
I was scared I would snap somethine by the time it finally came apart.
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Originally Posted by megtom2
I had the same problem when I went through the dash in our 86. You have to be gentle but forcefull. If that makes any sense?? lol
I was scared I would snap somethine by the time it finally came apart.
Ok... thanks.
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And by the way any idea what tests might be worth doing as the dash is out?

While the Digital Cluster is out:

1) If you have further troubleshooting to do, now is the time to do it. Many test procedures outlined in the Chevrolet factory shop manual for Corvettes require that the Digital Cluster be removed, so if something else isn't working, now's the time to fix it.
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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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My dash cluster stopped functioning, it started flickering and then went black. I sent out to get repaired for $200.00 and when recieved it and installed the unit, it lit up and the started flickering again.... Where do I start trouble shooting? I called the tech who did the repair and he said he replaced a bad power supply and that I may need to check for shorts in the harness...
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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by magicforce
My dash cluster stopped functioning, it started flickering and then went black. I sent out to get repaired for $200.00 and when recieved it and installed the unit, it lit up and the started flickering again.... Where do I start trouble shooting? I called the tech who did the repair and he said he replaced a bad power supply and that I may need to check for shorts in the harness...
Well sure enough I took both boards out. It looks like it had already been repaired as the solders were redone in those critical places. I checked them all with an ohm-meter and the contacts are all good. I've put it back together and will replug the harnesses. I suspect this will be a pain in butt...
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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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Well sure enough I took both boards out. It looks like it had already been repaired as the solders were redone in those critical places. I checked them all with an ohm-meter and the contacts are all good. I've put it back together and will replug the harnesses. I suspect this will be a pain in butt...
Hooked up the dash cluster to the 2 connectors: Nada. I moved the cluster around a little, back into it's normal position: Bingo! She light up like a XMas tree! I started up the engine ran it a few minutes, all looks good.

I screwed back everything in place, cluster, panels etc.

I go to start it up again to go out for a quick spin: Nada! All black and the climate control is flashing as well as the High Beam and Turn signal lamps on steady on the cluster....? WTH?

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Originally Posted by magicforce
My dash cluster stopped functioning, it started flickering and then went black. I sent out to get repaired for $200.00 and when recieved it and installed the unit, it lit up and the started flickering again.... Where do I start trouble shooting? I called the tech who did the repair and he said he replaced a bad power supply and that I may need to check for shorts in the harness...
Where is the sending unit or sensor located on my 84 Vette? I may have to check that to get the dash cluster to operate properly.
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Old Apr 8, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by charv66
Hooked up the dash cluster to the 2 connectors: Nada. I moved the cluster around a little, back into it's normal position: Bingo! She light up like a XMas tree! I started up the engine ran it a few minutes, all looks good.

I screwed back everything in place, cluster, panels etc.

I go to start it up again to go out for a quick spin: Nada! All black and the climate control is flashing as well as the High Beam and Turn signal lamps on steady on the cluster....? WTH?
That sounds like a ground issue. I have had problems with ground G104 which is on the engine towards the back driver's side. Check it out and make sure everything is hooked up properly there. I also sprayed it with electrical connection cleaner which I guess did somting because I haven't had any more ground problems.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by megtom2
That sounds like a ground issue. I have had problems with ground G104 which is on the engine towards the back driver's side. Check it out and make sure everything is hooked up properly there. I also sprayed it with electrical connection cleaner which I guess did somting because I haven't had any more ground problems.
The dash worked today, right upon turning the key this morning. Took it out for a good run, stayed light. Will check ground nonetheless.
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Check the grounds,check them again and again. These car's are so rigid, that things tend to come loose easily. Sounds like the cluster is working, it just gets loose and loses conectivity with the grounds.
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As other's have mentioned go to http://www.batee.com/corvette/dcrg/problems.shtml
Notice there are three catagories of problems, My 86 failed 3 times in 9 years. First failure was fixed by Batee's first category - common problems (pretty easy). The last two failures fell under the advanced category. One failure was repaired by a shop, The last failure I haven't fixed yet. I tried to go by symptom listed on Batee's site. I guess you could shot gun it and replace everything mentioned.
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The circuit boards in my cluster were coated with a protective epoxy coating. You need to remove it form where you need to remove and replace components (need bare solder points).

Good luck.
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Originally Posted by megtom2
I have had problems with ground G104 which is on the engine towards the back driver's side.
Is this the braided ground strap, that goes from the engine to the frame or firewall under the brake booster?
My 84 is dark also, and that's what I assume you are referring to.
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