most likely a head gasket as a result of another cooling syst. problem. 
CAR overheating!
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CAR overheating!
Driving with my date and so happen to look at the coolant temp... 240 and rising. Hit 260 and got to where i needed and shut it off.
Hours later... Went to leave and it climbed very fast again. So my buddy was there to help; We got coolant, put it in, about the whole gallon. Temp comes down but still lots of smoke out of pipes and clanking noise comin from where the main cat is. WEll temp goes normal.
I Had to get this girl back to her car. About half way there, temp slowly rising. Mind you every time i took off from a stop... lots of smoke from pipes, then would clear. By the time i get there it hits 255 and burn smell comes along. I shut it off.
She leaves, it pouring rain on me, crazy storm. Finally my buddy picked me up and gonna get it towed in the morning and have my buddies look at it.
What a night
Friend suggested head gasket
Hours later... Went to leave and it climbed very fast again. So my buddy was there to help; We got coolant, put it in, about the whole gallon. Temp comes down but still lots of smoke out of pipes and clanking noise comin from where the main cat is. WEll temp goes normal.
I Had to get this girl back to her car. About half way there, temp slowly rising. Mind you every time i took off from a stop... lots of smoke from pipes, then would clear. By the time i get there it hits 255 and burn smell comes along. I shut it off.
She leaves, it pouring rain on me, crazy storm. Finally my buddy picked me up and gonna get it towed in the morning and have my buddies look at it.
What a night
Friend suggested head gasket
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Head gasket would be my first guess, but if you pegged the temp. needle and the temp kept climbing before you got it shut down...god only knows what other damage you might have done to it.
This date of yours must be a world class piece of tail in order for you to destroy your car in order to get her back to hers. Fix your car, and enjoy her..."charms" or fix your car, and find a not so "all about me" girl.
This date of yours must be a world class piece of tail in order for you to destroy your car in order to get her back to hers. Fix your car, and enjoy her..."charms" or fix your car, and find a not so "all about me" girl.
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change your thermostate- i went from a 195 to a 180. what a diff it made the car run alot cooler..temp doesn't go over 215 now...also make sure your radiator fan is cycling on. it should come on at like 215-220 degrees...good luck
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Shes a chick so its her fault the car overheated anyways.
Shoulda done her
In the butt just for that then tossed a 396 crate motor on her credit card. Gotta train them sometimes, yessir.
Shoulda done her
In the butt just for that then tossed a 396 crate motor on her credit card. Gotta train them sometimes, yessir.
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Too funny for words!!! In the butt no less...only you could come up with that!
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Head gasket would be my first guess, but if you pegged the temp. needle and the temp kept climbing before you got it shut down...god only knows what other damage you might have done to it.
This date of yours must be a world class piece of tail in order for you to destroy your car in order to get her back to hers. Fix your car, and enjoy her..."charms" or fix your car, and find a not so "all about me" girl.
This date of yours must be a world class piece of tail in order for you to destroy your car in order to get her back to hers. Fix your car, and enjoy her..."charms" or fix your car, and find a not so "all about me" girl.
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I agree, with all the smoke you probably did a head gasket.
Need to find out why it is getting hot too...were your fans on? I had a relay go bad on one of my cars so the cooling fan didn't come on when needed.
Need to find out why it is getting hot too...were your fans on? I had a relay go bad on one of my cars so the cooling fan didn't come on when needed.
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Probably more than a head gasket at this point, that was most likely the result of pegging the temp gauge. There's some underlying issue I would think. The fans would be high on the list of suspects..............
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Head gasket leaking into cyl causing you to loose coolent then you overheat, add coolent leak eats more coolent overheat. Just replace head gaskets. flush fill and you should be fine. I would have heads checked if mine but usaly not a problem.
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Fans work fine, ive checked them days before. About month ago posted that coolant was mysteriously low and had not leaked in garage... and no one could figure it out. Hadn't had coolant problem again till last night so must of just really gave in.
Got it towed today. When car came off the bed, i saw blue/green water that had dripped from the tailpipes, so theres coolant getting in the engine no doubt. Oil looks good though.
So since we are takin the engine apart... gonna do the main seals too cuz its had a slight oil leak too. MAybe take the cats off too if we can, may be damaged and hey, why not get the performance gain.
Got it towed today. When car came off the bed, i saw blue/green water that had dripped from the tailpipes, so theres coolant getting in the engine no doubt. Oil looks good though.
So since we are takin the engine apart... gonna do the main seals too cuz its had a slight oil leak too. MAybe take the cats off too if we can, may be damaged and hey, why not get the performance gain.
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I'd pull the heads, get them checked for straightness
(lap if not straight, maybe lap on GPs.), and do new
head gaskets.
How many miles on the heads? If they are off, a good
multiangle valve job might be a good idea. And do
the valve stem seals.
Chuck
(lap if not straight, maybe lap on GPs.), and do new
head gaskets.
How many miles on the heads? If they are off, a good
multiangle valve job might be a good idea. And do
the valve stem seals.
Chuck
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pulling the plugs, good idea, ill see if i can.
Well heres my options and need your guys opinion, alot is weighing on this.
option 1:
I can have my friend help get it to his house and we probably do the whole top end. He said we could check the barrings to see how they look. maybe do those....Don't know how much this be cuz we were gonna see whats good, whats bad and go from there. im guessing $800 to $1500 if just top end.
option 2:
Or my uncle knows a guy that will do the whole top and bottom end. Redo every seal and get the compression back up, maybe lose the flat head pistons and do a better performance one if this motor is compatible for it. $2700.
Mind you car has 126,000 miles on it. Main seals im sure need to be changed cuz there is some oil leaking somewhere.
SO which do you think? I dont really wanna spend close to 3 Grand, but if thats a really good deal for the whole engine let me know... never went through a process like this so im clueless on value for a job like this.
Well heres my options and need your guys opinion, alot is weighing on this.
option 1:
I can have my friend help get it to his house and we probably do the whole top end. He said we could check the barrings to see how they look. maybe do those....Don't know how much this be cuz we were gonna see whats good, whats bad and go from there. im guessing $800 to $1500 if just top end.
option 2:
Or my uncle knows a guy that will do the whole top and bottom end. Redo every seal and get the compression back up, maybe lose the flat head pistons and do a better performance one if this motor is compatible for it. $2700.
Mind you car has 126,000 miles on it. Main seals im sure need to be changed cuz there is some oil leaking somewhere.
SO which do you think? I dont really wanna spend close to 3 Grand, but if thats a really good deal for the whole engine let me know... never went through a process like this so im clueless on value for a job like this.
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After replacing the TS, temp never over 200 - 220. Any answers?
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St. Jude Donor '05
You have a bad water pump and they want to sell you a new motor? 
IF you have bad head gasket you could be pumping exhaust gas through the cooling system which could blow the seals out but get that checked first.
Try a leadown test with the radiator cap off
IF you have bad head gasket you could be pumping exhaust gas through the cooling system which could blow the seals out but get that checked first.
Try a leadown test with the radiator cap off
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