removal of dash trim pieces
#1
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removal of dash trim pieces
Does anybody know if these pieces can be removed without removing the main dash assembly, and if so how?
I'm considering sending off all my interior/dash plastics to get the carbon fiber treatment, since my new custom made double-din radio bezel doesn't match everything else in the car (and can't ever be flat black plastic again, because it is cut and plastic welded together so it must be painted/coated).
But, it would still look a bit odd IMO, having the radio bezel, cluster bezel, shifter bezel and door handle bezels all carbon, while those dash trim pieces are still satin black.
Here are the pieces I'm talking about, each wraps around the side of the dash toward the door hinges. Any help is appreciated.
I'm considering sending off all my interior/dash plastics to get the carbon fiber treatment, since my new custom made double-din radio bezel doesn't match everything else in the car (and can't ever be flat black plastic again, because it is cut and plastic welded together so it must be painted/coated).
But, it would still look a bit odd IMO, having the radio bezel, cluster bezel, shifter bezel and door handle bezels all carbon, while those dash trim pieces are still satin black.
Here are the pieces I'm talking about, each wraps around the side of the dash toward the door hinges. Any help is appreciated.
#4
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I know how to, and have no problem with, removing every piece of plastic dash trim above the circled pieces.
I just want to know, once that is done, can those circled pieces also be removed, and if so, how?
When I had the interior apart for restoration a couple years ago, I don't recall seeing a way to remove those parts, and thinking that they may actually be made onto the dash main assembly. If this is the case then it's impossible for me to have them coated.
#5
if i'm not mistaken, those pieces you have circled are part of the main dash frame assembly and are not separate pieces. to refinish them, you would have to disassemble the complete dash and remove the frame or sub-structure. it can be done, but it would be one hell of a lot of work. most of that plastic has become brittle over the years, and most likely, you would damage it in the removal process. i would advise against removing it.
Last edited by Joe C; 11-04-2011 at 07:33 AM.
#8
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if i'm not mistaken, those pieces you have circled are part of the main dash frame assembly and are not separate pieces. to refinish them, you would have to disassemble the complete dash and remove the frame or sub-structure. it can be done, but it would be one hell of a lot of work. most of that plastic has become brittle over the years, and most likely, you would damage it in the removal process. i would advise against removing it.
#10
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Here is the modified 2din bezel that didn't match the rest of the interior. They cut and glue these bezels to suit 2din head units, and I guess for whatever reason they don't feel that they can sand them perfectly smooth and repaint them without you being able to see lines and imperfections, so they use this wrinkle/texture paint. It looks really good by itself but doesn't go well with the rest of the dash IMO.
I took the thing off and sanded it smooth (gently) until I couldn't see any imperfections or lines from glue etc. Did the same for the other bezels, masked off areas of the dash in the car and scuffed those, wiped everything down with terrycloth towels and wax/grease remover, then painted with a couple medium coats of rustoleum flat black.
This made a WORLD of difference. The entire interior/dash looks cleaner and more natural now. I guess that is to say, less like cheap molded plastic. I am very happy with the results, I just wonder how it will hold up over time, after being wiped off, etc.
I took the thing off and sanded it smooth (gently) until I couldn't see any imperfections or lines from glue etc. Did the same for the other bezels, masked off areas of the dash in the car and scuffed those, wiped everything down with terrycloth towels and wax/grease remover, then painted with a couple medium coats of rustoleum flat black.
This made a WORLD of difference. The entire interior/dash looks cleaner and more natural now. I guess that is to say, less like cheap molded plastic. I am very happy with the results, I just wonder how it will hold up over time, after being wiped off, etc.
#11
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Here is the modified 2din bezel that didn't match the rest of the interior. They cut and glue these bezels to suit 2din head units, and I guess for whatever reason they don't feel that they can sand them perfectly smooth and repaint them without you being able to see lines and imperfections, so they use this wrinkle/texture paint. It looks really good by itself but doesn't go well with the rest of the dash IMO.
I like the results of the opening for the double-din and how you refinished it. I'm not familiar with the Rustoleum coating you used but the result looks smooth/even in your pics. Probably pass "inspection" from most who check it out.
FWIW, SEM and Duplicolor make spray dyes that work well on plastics. I used SEM on mine and acheived near-exact factory appearance. Dye is thinner than paint which may/may not have longevity advantages.
OTOH, lots of people use paint products and end up with very nice results. I would include your pics in that category.
#12
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I like the results of the opening for the double-din and how you refinished it. I'm not familiar with the Rustoleum coating you used but the result looks smooth/even in your pics. Probably pass "inspection" from most who check it out.
FWIW, SEM and Duplicolor make spray dyes that work well on plastics. I used SEM on mine and acheived near-exact factory appearance. Dye is thinner than paint which may/may not have longevity advantages.
However, the dash pad is still TOO glossy, and on a sunny day you get so much reflection on the windshield that it's hard to see the road. Almost makes me wish for one of those ghey carpeted dash pads. Some days/angles it is momentarily so bad that I have to lean sideways for a moment to look "through" the dark reflection of the cloth speaker grill cover on the windshield so that I can see the road.
#13
Race Director
The one thing I did was wipe it with mineral spirits after I was complete. That's because I had one tiny spot that looked like a blob/run. It wiped off (surprisingly) and I didn't have to recoat it (a 3rd time).
Maybe wiping it with solvent dulled the finish slightly.
Sounds like you should give that a try. Or, try a different black. I know Duplicolor makes a flat black. Maybe that's better for the dash pad. Plus, it's less expensive than the SEM products.
Landau is the best shade for duplicating OEM black plastic finish though. And, the dash pad isn't plastic. Probably should be more dull/flat. And, just for the reason you state.
On a side note, I tried brushed alum for my console at one point. Didn't like it for the reflection. Same issue you describe here.