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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 04:19 PM
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my passenger side window wont work. so I replaced both switches with no luck. the driver side works fine. So I followed the FSM instructions and with out doing anything it started to work. only lasted a day. today I did the same thing and still got nothing but on the flow chart in the FSM I got stopped on the second box. the answer was replace LH switch. do you really think I got a bad switch. or is there anything I can do to make it work.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 04:28 PM
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the likelihood of both switches going bad is almost zero. My bet would be that the motor needs to be replaced.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by VetteMed
the likelihood of both switches going bad is almost zero. My bet would be that the motor needs to be replaced.
thats what I was thinking but when it did work it went up quickly. with no problems. at least it gets stuck in the up position
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 10:18 PM
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I see this quite abit at work. Power goes to driver switch, then passenger switch,then to window motor. Pull passenger panel unplug connecter from motor, Make sure you have good ground with test light. Hold test light on connecter ends operate switches, if light goes on and off motor is bad. If light does'nt come on check for power leaving driver switch. If no power leaving switch, its bad (you can get faulty parts new) See it more today then yester year. If power is present Check for power coming into passenger switch, If no power then its in the wire between the two( Hard to find and get to ) If power is present coming into switch, check for power leaving switch, if not bad switch. If power is leaving switch its in the wire between pass. switch and motor( useally where wires leave body and enter door) If you have to diagnos it this far. ) 9 out 10 its the motor or switch. Hope this is of some help, and nice ride.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 10:57 PM
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thanks clarky but all thats in the FSM its getting quite old.
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I'd wager there is an open in the motor's coils. When it happens to stop with the brushes on either side of the open the motor is inop. Sharply closing the door a few times might jar it into a position where the brushes don't span the open. The motor is the culprit I'm 90% sure of it.
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Nowhere Man thanks for the post because I've started to have the same issue so I'll tag along on this thread.
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Originally Posted by 94z07fx3
I'd wager there is an open in the motor's coils. When it happens to stop with the brushes on either side of the open the motor is inop. Sharply closing the door a few times might jar it into a position where the brushes don't span the open. The motor is the culprit I'm 90% sure of it.
if that don't you think if I get in there and tap on it a few times would help
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Where did you find the replacement switches? Are they the same on the 94 as a 92? I looked at the usual vendors and kept finding "discontinued" or "out of stock".
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Old May 30, 2012 | 08:49 PM
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Last summer my power window switch went bad on the driver's side. It wouldn't operate the passenger side window. I got a new switch from Keen Parts. This summer the passenger side switch wouldn't work the window so, again, I got the switch from Keen Parts. They are listed on the left side of the chat home page with all the vendors.

www.keenparts.com
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Thanks Mailman, I'll check that out in the AM and get one ordered. Bad enough I'm waiting on parts for the AC, but when the driver's window won't work either it gets a bit warm!
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Old May 31, 2012 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 94z07fx3
I'd wager there is an open in the motor's coils. When it happens to stop with the brushes on either side of the open the motor is inop. Sharply closing the door a few times might jar it into a position where the brushes don't span the open. The motor is the culprit I'm 90% sure of it.


Just because the window motor works once again does not absolve it of any defects, rather think it may have an intermittent.

The key here is having and knowing how to use test equipment like a test light or a meter. That will pinpoint your problem, save you time and money.

Skip that and what other choice do you have but to keep throwing parts at it until it works? Highly unlikely but it could be in the wiring and replacing a motor could leave you 0 for 2 fixing things that aren't broke.

To me passenger window operation is imperative, especially if entertaining the occasional passenger that enjoys cheap beer and spicy food

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Keen Parts does not have any - GM has discontinued it and apparently nobody is making a replacement. You would think there are enough C-4's out there getting along in years that it would be worth making the part.

Anybody know of a good C-4 junk yard?
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man
if that don't you think if I get in there and tap on it a few times would help
Originally Posted by 94z07fx3
I'd wager there is an open in the motor's coils. When it happens to stop with the brushes on either side of the open the motor is inop. Sharply closing the door a few times might jar it into a position where the brushes don't span the open. The motor is the culprit I'm 90% sure of it.
I realize im digging up an old thread here but im having this issue and was hoping for some advice before I bough new parts.
I have a 94 as well and the Pass window stopped working in the closed position one day. I took the door panel off and verified power through the switch as appropriate. Listening carefully I could hear faint clicking inside door when moving the switch, so I got power to motor. I gave the bottom of the door a few hard wallops with my fist and the motor came back to life. So I am assuming intermittant open in the motor and going to replace it. Does this sound like the right move?

thanks!
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I have a 93, same problem. After checking electrical stuff gave the motor a couple of blows with the hammer handle. To my surprise motor started to work, that was 2 years ago still working as it should. Not going the hurt anything by giving it a wack, might just fix it.
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