engine replacement estimate
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From: Salem New Hampshire
engine replacement estimate
What's your thought...i just recieved a quote to replace my engine in my 85 vette and was wondering if it was a reasonable quote.1845 long block, 1650 labor, 347 kit, 165,00 discounted $3,677.00 minus 420.00corechargefor a total $3,257.00 total price whatya think?
Racer
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From: NY
Replace it with what? New or rebuilt? You don't have to lift a finger? May be worth it?
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Depending upon your location, probably reasonable. You might check around a bit though. Make sure you get all warranties fully explained and in writing. Your engine is basically the same as came in a truck or passenger car from the early70's , so it is isn't as complex/expensive, as the 86 up, with roller cams and aluminum heads.I think you can still get a new target engine from GM which is exactly the same thing, and it's entirely new with a great warranty and no core. I think they run about $1400.
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Intermediate
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From: Westland MI
Don't need a warranty when you build your own, and do it right.
Bored .030 over, Keith Black 10.5 to 1 forged pistons, Steel Crank, pink rods,
Line Bored the mains, cl77 bearings, 3 angle manley valves 2.02, General Kinetics mid range cam 454lift 272 duration . Pete Jackson Gears Quiet
Thats all I can think of off the top of my head.
I did waste a bunch of money on exhaust Manifold gaskets, kept blowing them until I got smart and didnt use any.
Free labor built and installed myself.
Hope that helps.
Gm crate I seen recenty was $2,300 list.
Scott
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From: Salem New Hampshire
[QUOTE=zr1fred;1582973900]Depending upon your location, probably reasonable. You might check around a bit though. Make sure you get all warranties fully explained and in writing. Your engine is basically the same as came in a truck or passenger car from the early70's , so it is isn't as complex/expensive, as the 86 up, with roller cams and aluminum heads.I think you can still get a new target engine from GM which is exactly the same thing, and it's entirely new with a great warranty and no core. I think they run about $1400.
The problem with the Gm motor is that it has to be installed by a certified GM Tech in order that the warrenty be honored! I have already check GM 4 engine, Jasper offers a 3 year 100,000 mile warrenty.This engine would be complete to just be place in vette. Two days of labor and you are out the garage door!
I value my time and could be doing something more valuble that I KNOW HOW TO DO while the expects do their job. Also they have the garage and tools in order to complete the job!
I will be getting at least 3 quotes as I have put them out for bid..........Thanks for your reply
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The problem with the Gm motor is that it has to be installed by a certified GM Tech in order that the warrenty be honored! I have already check GM 4 engine, Jasper offers a 3 year 100,000 mile warrenty.This engine would be complete to just be place in vette. Two days of labor and you are out the garage door!
I value my time and could be doing something more valuble that I KNOW HOW TO DO while the expects do their job. Also they have the garage and tools in order to complete the job!
I will be getting at least 3 quotes as I have put them out for bid..........Thanks for your reply
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Melting Slicks
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From: Bay Shore, NY
I've been hunting for a rebuilder on my 85 as well. On Long Island, I've been quoted prices from $3000 to $6000 to rebuild the engine, not replace it. All came with at least a year warranty.
GM no longer sells an exact replacement motor for the 85. The Target motor is set up for a carb and you would need to swap out the cam, although I'm told the computer will still work with the cam that it comes with. Also, I believe it does not use the 2 piece seal. I did find this shop in Texas that will build a long block to your specs and the cost was very reasonable, less than $1400 which included shipping. The Jasper motor, I think, was going for something close to $2500 last time I checked. My buddy swears by them and he used to be an authorized dealer and installer before he closed his shop.
As long as you're getting a warranty and you can trust the shop not to butcher your car, the estimate you got was on point IMO for a stock rebuild or replacement. Keep in mind, they probably did not include additional parts that may need once they get into it, like water pump, distributor, etc. I would budget $4000 for the rebuild.
GM no longer sells an exact replacement motor for the 85. The Target motor is set up for a carb and you would need to swap out the cam, although I'm told the computer will still work with the cam that it comes with. Also, I believe it does not use the 2 piece seal. I did find this shop in Texas that will build a long block to your specs and the cost was very reasonable, less than $1400 which included shipping. The Jasper motor, I think, was going for something close to $2500 last time I checked. My buddy swears by them and he used to be an authorized dealer and installer before he closed his shop.
As long as you're getting a warranty and you can trust the shop not to butcher your car, the estimate you got was on point IMO for a stock rebuild or replacement. Keep in mind, they probably did not include additional parts that may need once they get into it, like water pump, distributor, etc. I would budget $4000 for the rebuild.
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From: Islamorada Florida
I have been very pleased with the Jasper replacement engine for my wifes 1989 L98. I have had zero issues. Final price was around 4K though as poster ejscarfo suggests I went ahead and took the opportunity to replace many other parts.
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Jasper also has a line of performance engines if you decide you want more HP/torque than a stock replacement L98 motor. The 3 year/100K miles warranty is an excellent deal.
Our shop uses Jasper engines and transmissions for all engine replacement jobs we do. The nice thing about using Jasper is that the engine long block comes completely assembled so all the tech has to do is remove the old engine from the car, transfer the accessories to the Jasper engine and install it in the car. Once the customer's car is at the shop, Jasper typically delivers by the next working day and the swap is done in about a day depending on the car make and model.
Our shop uses Jasper engines and transmissions for all engine replacement jobs we do. The nice thing about using Jasper is that the engine long block comes completely assembled so all the tech has to do is remove the old engine from the car, transfer the accessories to the Jasper engine and install it in the car. Once the customer's car is at the shop, Jasper typically delivers by the next working day and the swap is done in about a day depending on the car make and model.
Burning Brakes
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From: Kingwood Texas
Sounds like a fair price.