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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 11:59 PM
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Im trying to educated myself on C4 and have a few questions.
What's the difference between the Dana 36 and 44? Could a 36 be converted to a 44?
Which models year is the Dana 44 available?
Which model years is the 6 speed available and whatmake is it?
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Dale002
Im trying to educated myself on C4 and have a few questions.
What's the difference between the Dana 36 and 44? Could a 36 be converted to a 44?
Which models year is the Dana 44 available?
Which model years is the 6 speed available and whatmake is it?
The Dana 36 is fitted to cars with an automatic transmission.

The Dana 44 is a heavier duty one fitted to cars with manual transmissions from the factory.

The ZF 6 speed manual gearbox became available after 1988 prior to that only the Doug Nash 4+3 was available.

The ZF S6-650 is a 6-speed manual transmission manufactured by ZF Friedrichshafen AG. It is designed for longitudinal engine applications, and is rated to handle up to 705 newton metres (520 lbf·ft) of torque.

General Motors used the S6 as RPO ML6.

Others may chime in and correct me if i am wrong.

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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 01:37 PM
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Actually, here in the colonies, the ZF6 was available (finally) mid-year 1989.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 05:18 PM
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As I read in a thread once upon a time, if you take it out and flog it, and it breaks, then you have a Dana 36, not a Dana 44
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A Dana 36 has smaller weaker gears/internals. You cannot physically change a Dana 36 into a Dana 44, but you can unbolt the Dana 36 from your car and bolt in a Dana 44 in its place. You need the driveshaft and C-beam for the Dana 44, but it is a bolt in application. Every year (except '84) that had a manual transmission also got a Dana 44. All automatics got the Dana 36.

The ZF6, like others mentioned, was available from 1989-1996. There are two versions of his transmission, black tag and blue tag. They physically have different color service tags on the side (black or blue). The black tag is the stronger of the two since it has straighter cut gears. Due to this it is also a little louder. In an effort to quiet it down ZF made the gears with more of an angle between the teeth, but it also weakened it slightly. The black tag was used from '89- mid '93, and the blue tag from '93 -'96.
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As I read in a thread once upon a time, if you take it out and flog it, and it breaks, then you have a Dana 36, not a Dana 44
The Dana 36 in my 85 with auto trans has put up with many years with the added h/p and torque of the vortech supercharger, the aluminum half shafts twist and break easily saving the Dana 36. Now with steel half shafts it is still going strong, even the larger Dana 44 breaks. People with serious h/p are putting solid axle 9 inch diffs in their corvettes.......

So unless you are going to run super sticky drag slicks, and have a seriously modified engine. You are fine with the dana 36. The auto cars came with the D36 and manuals with D44.

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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 10:14 AM
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I've never changed the oil in my '90 Dana 44 rear or ZF with 44K miles. Is there a time/mileage limit? Sorry for the hi-jack but it sounds like you folks are experts.

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Originally Posted by gerardvg
The Dana 36 in my 85 with auto trans has put up with many years with the added h/p and torque of the vortech supercharger, the aluminum half shafts twist and break easily saving the Dana 36. Now with steel half shafts it is still going strong, even the larger Dana 44 breaks. People with serious h/p are putting solid axle 9 inch diffs in their corvettes.......

So unless you are going to run super sticky drag slicks, and have a seriously modified engine. You are fine with the dana 36. The auto cars came with the D36 and manuals with D44.

Where do they stick the hyd clutch resevoir on this cars?
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Under the ECM, Firewall you have to remove the ECM 2 10mm nuts.
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I have been looking at some C4 online for sell and the ones thatsdo not show the pedals or say they are a manual, I can't tell if they are auto or manual.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Dale002
I have been looking at some C4 online for sell and the ones thatsdo not show the pedals or say they are a manual, I can't tell if they are auto or manual.
Look at the pics of the interior. Usually the shift lever is in park and the manual trans is in neutral when they are shut off or idling. Its not foolproof but its what you would normally do.
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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I've never changed the oil in my '90 Dana 44 rear or ZF with 44K miles. Is there a time/mileage limit? Sorry for the hi-jack but it sounds like you folks are experts.
23 year old fluid? I'd definitely change it.

How often you change it, depends on how you drive the car.
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23 year old fluid? I'd definitely change it.

How often you change it, depends on how you drive the car.
Its never been driven hard...weekend cruising in warm weather. Does the lube wear out/deteriorate just sitting in the housings?
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