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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 07:49 AM
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Hey guys,

I just picked up my "new to me" '85, it only has 44,000 miles on it and looks to have been babied. anyway, the question is:

when the car is cold and it's cold outside, the steering seems to "wander" a bit on the road, it just can't quite make up it's mind which way it wants to go.

then after I drive it a few miles and everything warms up some, it stops the wandering and seems to track really well.

is this what is called "morning sickness"? I've done some searches but it seems like most of the issues are with really stiff steering when cold, mine doesn't seem to have that it just won't "lock" onto the road for a while.

it was just aligned and the settings are really close to what VBP recommends for a "street cruiser" (what I'm after).

I will be replacing the shocks in the next few days also.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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I had the same issue with my 85 earlier this summer. replaced the shocks and lower ball joints and it tightened right up.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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Check your tie rods and tire pressure.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 09:09 AM
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Wandering or pulling is often caused by tires. How old are they?
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 09:31 AM
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not really sure of the age, I'll have to look at the date stamps on them to see, I know that there are two different brands on the car but the axles have the matching tires (front matches front ----back matches back).

I just had the tires balanced due to a vibration at highway speeds over 60. that seems to be better now though and the pressure is checked regularly. I run them right at 35 cold PSI.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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You might want to try 27psi.
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by zr1fred
You might want to try 27psi.
really?---that's a lot lower than I have ever heard, is that standard for these wide tires? (255-50-16)
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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 02:54 PM
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Old tires. Stiff sidewalls. Takes a while to warm the tires up as to make them pliable.
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"Morning sickness" is a term used to describe a potential failure of the power steering pump or even the rack. It's typically indicated by a whine coming from the pump.

I would at least flush out the old PS fluid and use Red Line synthetic power steering fluid.

And 35psi is the factory air pressure for the tires. You can lower it some to help with ride comfort but I would not go less than 30psi.

Once you replace the shocks, come back and post up what (if anything) feels different. I would also suggest a tire replacement if the tires are more than 5-6 years old, regardless of the tread remaining. Give the low miles I would expect the car is probably on its second set of tires which may explain why there are different brands on the car.
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 12:12 AM
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I have seen morning sickness referring to two different symptoms:

A groaning noise when turning the steering wheel. That's usually caused by air in the hydraulic fluid.

A "catch", where the steering gets "stuck" as you turn the wheel and then suddenly releases.
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I'm guessing tires on this one.
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Originally Posted by Jig A Low
really?---that's a lot lower than I have ever heard, is that standard for these wide tires? (255-50-16)
Old tire get hard, reducing the pressure may help the problem. 35psi, while often recommended gives harsher ride on new tires. Most people run around 30-32. It gives a better ride, with no noticeable drop in street performance, or wear. Nearly all tires ride harsh in below freezing temps.
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Old Nov 27, 2013 | 08:37 AM
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Check out the tires, the fact that it gets better after driving a while indicates the tires are warming up and the problem is going away...I would get new tires if for no other reason then they aren't a matched set, different tires handle and perform differently......WW

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Originally Posted by Jig A Low
really?---that's a lot lower than I have ever heard, is that standard for these wide tires? (255-50-16)
27 is too low unless you want the edges worn off pronto
Switch back to front and see if it helps
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