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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 11:51 PM
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My son owns a 1994 corvette in Honolulu, HI. His key was recently stolen and now he has no keys to his car. He went to the dealership to get another key and they said they had lost all old records for the key codes to his car. They want $2000-$2500 to get into his car and make him another key. Does anyone have any idea how we could get him another key made that would work and cost less than this?
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Just about any locksmith should be able to do it for you, about $100-$200

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Another example of why EVERYONE should have SPARE KEYS.
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Originally Posted by Kmcoldcars
Another example of why EVERYONE should have SPARE KEYS.


At the very least, C4 owners should measure the pellet in their own keys and record the resistance in a safe place with the title.
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by feltyfamily
My son owns a 1994 corvette in Honolulu, HI. His key was recently stolen and now he has no keys to his car. He went to the dealership to get another key and they said they had lost all old records for the key codes to his car. They want $2000-$2500 to get into his car and make him another key. Does anyone have any idea how we could get him another key made that would work and cost less than this?
Should be able to read the BCM and find out what pellet is required. A locksmith or a competent dealer should be able to do this.

Should be able to buy a BCM from a parted out car with known pellet type.

Should be able to test each of the 15 possibilities to find out which one works. This could be done via the VATS bypass resistor method using a potentiometer and waiting the cool down timer out between tests.
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 04:53 AM
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When you get to the door key, the console lock will give all but the last tumbler and again the competent locksmith can make the 4 (IIRC) different possibilities. Only took my guy 2 tries. Cost-$35.

I am glad I have an '85. No VATS.

Who steals a set of keys and not the car? Might consider changing the key cylinder anyway.
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Old Dec 16, 2013 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by feltyfamily
My son owns a 1994 corvette in Honolulu, HI. His key was recently stolen and now he has no keys to his car. He went to the dealership to get another key and they said they had lost all old records for the key codes to his car. They want $2000-$2500 to get into his car and make him another key. Does anyone have any idea how we could get him another key made that would work and cost less than this?

BS - I seriously doubt the comment lost all "unless" the dealership is something other than a "franchised" GM dealership. Now if there's been any cylinder changes since new then the information available would be incorrect and that's certainly possible.

Go to a "franchised" GM dealer with correct ID and proof of ownership and the key records at time of build would be available for a fee. Generally speaking the VATS resistance isn't supplied with the request BUT there's been many posts by forum participants that their key requests from dealers DID include the VATS resistance for as old as '91MY vehicles.

If the "key of record" rotates the cylinder then it's a matter of using a VATS interrogator to determine the resistance. If the key does NOT rotate the cylinder then the game changes.

If the VATS resistance is supplied with the key request it's very unlikely that the resistance value would have been changed so it should be likely to use that resistance and a cylinder change to make run.
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The dealership was a GM dealership in Honolulu. The bad part about living on the island is there are only so many people you can go to. He his coming home for Christmas, hoping maybe we can find something out then. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by 94z07fx3
Should be able to buy a BCM from a parted out car with known pellet type.
The "used" BCM purchase is a foolish idea.
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The dealership was a GM dealership in Honolulu. The bad part about living on the island is there are only so many people you can go to. He his coming home for Christmas, hoping maybe we can find something out then. Thank you.
Have him take snapshots of the windshield VIN, the door certification label and make sure he brings proper documentation of ownership with him.

Do you have a "relationship" with a local dealer where you're located? If you've a "relationship" with a local, a confirming FAX with information from either a DMV and/or a certification of insurance from an insurance provider direct to the dealer might work for you. See either the Service or Parts manager. They might as a courtesy at least confirm the information passed on by the HI dealer was correct.

I'll have to lean towards the BS still - the information available might NOT work BUT I'm not buying into the "LOST"!
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I would question what that dealership really knows. The pellet resistance value should be very easy to get from GM. And there are only 15 values. Even ALLDATA should have that information. It's not like those pellet keys were Corvette-specific. And that price quote is plain absurd. It sounds like they really don't want to take on the job.

Most dealerships would charge something like $30-$50 to replace a pellet-style key.

Any competent locksmith should be able to at least get into the car with no problem. Call a AAA office and ask who they send out to lockout calls.
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Stay away from the dealers. Find a good locksmith thats what i did 130$
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He should leave the car sitting on blocks or something to keep the key thief from coming and taking it. Especially if there was reason to believe that the thieves know where he lives.
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I would question what that dealership really knows. The pellet resistance value should be very easy to get from GM. And there are only 15 values. Even ALLDATA should have that information. It's not like those pellet keys were Corvette-specific. And that price quote is plain absurd. It sounds like they really don't want to take on the job.

Most dealerships would charge something like $30-$50 to replace a pellet-style key.

Any competent locksmith should be able to at least get into the car with no problem. Call a AAA office and ask who they send out to lockout calls.
If the resistance value is not transmitted with a "key code request" it can NOT be sourced from GM. ALLDATA has no "key information". The only other record of key information would be by the "selling dealer" and it was recorded with the sale documents, it also was recorded on the sales invoice for most but it was NOT designated as "key codes".

I doubt the validity of the entire post - there's information either missing or like I mentioned BS.

Originally Posted by 1Asterisk
He should leave the car sitting on blocks or something to keep the key thief from coming and taking it. Especially if there was reason to believe that the thieves know where he lives.
Judging from the "location mentioned" where's the thief going to run! If it's insured it could be a "favor"!

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Locksmithing will be able to help obtain a set of replacement car keys for whatever vehicle you have.
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Originally Posted by 1Asterisk
He should leave the car sitting on blocks or something to keep the key thief from coming and taking it. Especially if there was reason to believe that the thieves know where he lives.


Absolutely, make sure the car is secured first THEN worry about the key replacement..
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