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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 02:00 PM
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I have been talking with the mechanic at my job and he is telling me that with a 3.80 stroke on a stroker crank you dont have to deck the block like on a 3.75 stroker crank. If this is true why wouldnt you just buy the 3.80 crank and be done with it spend that money somewhere else? Experts please dime in. Something does not sound right.
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Old Jan 22, 2014 | 02:22 PM
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He needs to recheck his math. Many rebuilder pistons put the crown .025" "down in the hole" to allow for decking to true the block surface if necessary. 3.800" minus 3.750" = 0.050" - the piston will stick out of the hole if you don't use pistons for the 3.800" stroke.
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He needs to recheck his math. Many rebuilder pistons put the crown .025" "down in the hole" to allow for decking to true the block surface if necessary. 3.800" minus 3.750" = 0.050" - the piston will stick out of the hole if you don't use pistons for the 3.800" stroke.
The mechanic didnt mention using different pistons. I should have said ok and walked away from him.
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The mechanic didnt mention using different pistons. I should have said ok and walked away from him.
Typically, 383 pistons are made for 5.7" or 6.0" rods. Pin height isn't standardized, so one 383 piston may sit in the hole differently than another 383 piston. But, since most 383s are being built from a used 350 block (and assuming a .030" overbore), they often use a slightly shorter pin height to allow for block decking - again, it isn't standardized.

His whole (hole??) premise is faulty. So, yeah, you probably should have just walked away.
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Originally Posted by five7kid
He needs to recheck his math. Many rebuilder pistons put the crown .025" "down in the hole" to allow for decking to true the block surface if necessary. 3.800" minus 3.750" = 0.050" - the piston will stick out of the hole if you don't use pistons for the 3.800" stroke.
..... The .050 change in stroke gets divided in half ... .025 up ... and .025 down ... effectively providing a Zero deck on an untouched block ... however , the most important part of decking a block is to make sure that the cylinder head surface is flat and square to the crankshaft centerline in both planes ... fore and aft ... side to side ... how much material that is removed from the deck is sometimes determined by how far off square it was to begin with ........... so , technically , yes you can use a 3.80 stroke crank to zero deck your block ... but that is only true if the deck is known to be square ... I would not recommend this approach ......... Take the block to the machine shop and pay the man ..........
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..... The .050 change in stroke gets divided in half ... .025 up ... and .025 down ... effectively providing a Zero deck on an untouched block ...
You're right! I should recheck my own math!
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however , the most important part of decking a block is to make sure that the cylinder head surface is flat and square to the crankshaft centerline in both planes ... fore and aft ... side to side ... how much material that is removed from the deck is sometimes determined by how far off square it was to begin with ........... so , technically , yes you can use a 3.80 stroke crank to zero deck your block ... but that is only true if the deck is known to be square ... I would not recommend this approach ......... Take the block to the machine shop and pay the man ..........
Agreed, and, you need to know your pin height.

(And I'd better shut up now... )

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