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Old Mar 13, 2014 | 05:48 PM
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My 85 didn't come with a door key..

I can call a locksmith. I can change the cylinders.. But what I'd rather do is just have some keys cut to fit it?

There's a Chevy dealer within a rock throw of here, but they said it's so old they "don't have that stuff anymore" to cut a key from the VIN. (Which kind of makes sense.. They haven't been around that long.)

Which implies that someone, or some dealer somewhere might?

Do you know anyone who can cut a key for my doors from the VIN?

Is there some decoder or something I can use to give my local dealer the info the need to cut a key?

Is there any trick I can use to mark a blank key and cut it myself ?

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Also.. Please pardon the stupid questions, but..

The same key is supposed to fit the console, right?
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Originally Posted by confab
My 85 didn't come with a door key..

I can call a locksmith. I can change the cylinders.. But what I'd rather do is just have some keys cut to fit it?

There's a Chevy dealer within a rock throw of here, but they said it's so old they "don't have that stuff anymore" to cut a key from the VIN. (Which kind of makes sense.. They haven't been around that long.)

Which implies that someone, or some dealer somewhere might?

Do you know anyone who can cut a key for my doors from the VIN?

Is there some decoder or something I can use to give my local dealer the info the need to cut a key?

Is there any trick I can use to mark a blank key and cut it myself ?
You can remove a cylinder from one door and have a lock-smith or some other talented individual disassemble it and interpret the pins for the key-cut that can be converted to a code. You need to use a door cylinder and NOT the console because the console cylinder doesn't use a full compliment of pins.

You will need to buy a replacement (cylinder) pin holder, the bezel, springs and pin retainer UNLESS it's done by a very talented person that can remove the retainer without destroying it.

A really talented individual in a parts department can help you and it should not be an issue. Most probably can't - the person needs to be really cautious disassembling and removing the pins to maintain correct order.

You can't accomplish the task from a VIN.

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Also.. Please pardon the stupid questions, but..

The same key is supposed to fit the console, right?
I believe that is a true statement, though the lock is missing from my console.
I'd talk to another dealership and see if they can make a key off the vin. If that doesn't work out, I'd definitely contact a good locksmith, they can make keys for almost anything.
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Old Mar 13, 2014 | 07:35 PM
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It might be cheaper to get a door lock "set" if one can be found. I do know some old cars had the key code on the passenger door lock, don't know about vets.
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I watched a locksmith break into my car once. (Long story.) He put a key blank into the keyhole and jiggled it roughly. When he took it out he filed the blank based on the scratches on the blank (think this is right). Then he repeated. After 3-4 repetitions, he unlocked the car. $120 later I was on my way with a hand cut key...
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More dumb questions..

When it was new.. Did my car come with a remote to unlock the doors and stuff?
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More dumb questions..

When it was new.. Did my car come with a remote to unlock the doors and stuff?
No remotes, but I would try other dealerships to see if they have equipment still to cut keys.
When I worked for Ford, we kept everything to cut keys for cars gone past.
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Originally Posted by confab
My 85 didn't come with a door key..

I can call a locksmith. I can change the cylinders.. But what I'd rather do is just have some keys cut to fit it?

There's a Chevy dealer within a rock throw of here, but they said it's so old they "don't have that stuff anymore" to cut a key from the VIN. (Which kind of makes sense.. They haven't been around that long.)

Which implies that someone, or some dealer somewhere might?

Do you know anyone who can cut a key for my doors from the VIN?

Is there some decoder or something I can use to give my local dealer the info the need to cut a key?

Is there any trick I can use to mark a blank key and cut it myself ?
try any GM dealer
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A competent locksmith can cut a new key to fit the door lock cylinder. Figure on about $35-$45 to have a key cut to fit if you bring the cylinder in.

And good locksmith shops should have new pins and other components if needed. Can't hurt to call around and ask first.
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I didn't think GM stored key by VIN back then. They had knock outs on the keys that they told you to keep, the knock outs had the key pattern on them. I think they didn't keep the key by VIN because they didn't want any GM employee to be able to cut keys to fit a car and be able to sell them or use them to steal cars.
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Originally Posted by DC Ron
I watched a locksmith break into my car once. (Long story.) He put a key blank into the keyhole and jiggled it roughly. When he took it out he filed the blank based on the scratches on the blank (think this is right). Then he repeated. After 3-4 repetitions, he unlocked the car. $120 later I was on my way with a hand cut key...
Yep, I went through the same thing when I had my early C4 (85). I didn't get a door key with the car either (I had just bought it a few day before)
A good locksmith can do this. Just check around. What I did was accidentally locked the ignition keys in the car. I called a locksmith and told him what I did and told me they could cut a key with just a blank. The guy came out and did just as DC Ron said. He had it unlocked and keys and in my hand plus and a spare in about 15 minutes.
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