LED Headlights
#61
Pro
Probably, yes, but there's the concern that was brought up that doing so would cause the high beam indicator to be on all the time. I refuse to cut my stock wiring, I'd be game to try this if I could find some short extensions for the fogs similar to what I had for the headlights.
#62
Melting Slicks
Probably, yes, but there's the concern that was brought up that doing so would cause the high beam indicator to be on all the time. I refuse to cut my stock wiring, I'd be game to try this if I could find some short extensions for the fogs similar to what I had for the headlights.
I just got through upgrading my fog lights from the 880 stock bulbs to the 50 watt halogen 885 bulbs. (refer to the tech tips article that was written on the subject)...
The deal here is that some models of Corvettes have the fog lights wired directly to ground and others are grounded through the high beam filament. When they are wired through the high beam, the fog lights will go off when the high beams are on. If you upgrad to 885 bulbs... the high beam will glow when the fog lights are on... even if the headlights are OFF!!!
Unfortunately for me... in 1988, the wiring of the bulbs through the high beams was a late production change. On my car, the was to tell was there is a brown wire and a green wire comming from the fog lights. The green wire is the one that goes to the headlight. I cut the green wire and spliced in a 14 guage black wire directly to chassis ground. Now I have 50 watt halogen fog lights that stay on when the high beams are on and they don't cause the high beams to glow when the headlights are off.
Oh yeah... one other thing.... I did have to change my "TAIL" fuse from a 10 amp to a 15 amp... that is also mentioned in the 'tech tip', but it wasn't a problem for me until I also upgraded my front cornering 1156 bulbs to 50 watt halogen bulbs too.
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The deal here is that some models of Corvettes have the fog lights wired directly to ground and others are grounded through the high beam filament. When they are wired through the high beam, the fog lights will go off when the high beams are on. If you upgrad to 885 bulbs... the high beam will glow when the fog lights are on... even if the headlights are OFF!!!
Unfortunately for me... in 1988, the wiring of the bulbs through the high beams was a late production change. On my car, the was to tell was there is a brown wire and a green wire comming from the fog lights. The green wire is the one that goes to the headlight. I cut the green wire and spliced in a 14 guage black wire directly to chassis ground. Now I have 50 watt halogen fog lights that stay on when the high beams are on and they don't cause the high beams to glow when the headlights are off.
Oh yeah... one other thing.... I did have to change my "TAIL" fuse from a 10 amp to a 15 amp... that is also mentioned in the 'tech tip', but it wasn't a problem for me until I also upgraded my front cornering 1156 bulbs to 50 watt halogen bulbs too.
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#63
Pro
That node ties together the two green wires running from the OEM fogs on my '89 C4. The schematic referenced in that post is for an '89 that doesn't appear to have direct foglight grounds as do the '90~'96 C4's.
This might be the simple solution I was searching for but I haven't had a chance to try it yet. I'm looking to place that ground without hacking into the OEM foglight wiring harness keeping it intact. Stay tuned.
Last edited by mako41; 04-08-2015 at 10:22 AM.
#65
Advanced
For those interested,
I've put together a writeup to solve this problem. This writeup works on C4s 1990-1996.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1588771616
I've put together a writeup to solve this problem. This writeup works on C4s 1990-1996.
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1588771616
#66
Intermediate
These are still a little expensive, but when the price drops I'm considering getting these.
I see three suppliers (and they may actually be the same light)
Nighthawk
Phillips
Truck-Lite
Here's a link Amazon.com: GE NIGHTHAWK LED 5" x 7" Rectangular LED Replacement Headlamp: Automotive
Has anyone gone to LED headlights? I'd be interested in your thoughts.
I see three suppliers (and they may actually be the same light)
Nighthawk
Phillips
Truck-Lite
Here's a link Amazon.com: GE NIGHTHAWK LED 5" x 7" Rectangular LED Replacement Headlamp: Automotive
Has anyone gone to LED headlights? I'd be interested in your thoughts.
nO NEED FOR RELAYS ON A 96, SIMPLY BUY THE CERAMIC H4 TO H3 CONV, CABLE STANDARD PLUG IN AND THAT'S IT .
NOW TO ADDRESS THE FOG LIGHTS, BUY THE SYLVANIA LED BULB CONV. KIT AND AGAIN THE CERAMIC CONVERTER HARNESS THAT
WILL KEEP GROUND ISOLATED TO BOTH THE HEADLIGHTS AND THE FOG LAMPS. (BULB Kit #880- AVAILABLE @ headlightexperts (google it)
THE FOG LIGHTS ARE SO BRIGHT I USE THEM IN LIEU OF THE HEADLIGHTS AS DRIVING LIGHTS (4500 LUMEN)
Last edited by raid007; 11-08-2018 at 11:58 PM. Reason: LEFTOUT PART NUMBER FOR FOGLIGHTS
#67
Intermediate
I use the ceramic H4 converter to H3 three pong terminal that has the ground rearranged and isolated so the fog lamps remain grounded separate from the headlights,
since the filament terminal is the ground on the regular plug. Now the fog lights and the headlights work unimpeded and your bright lights work properly without staying on all the time.
You can correct this on the above pictured, but to isolate the ground for the fog and not have the bright lights on you will have to reveres the ground out to fog lamps.
since the filament terminal is the ground on the regular plug. Now the fog lights and the headlights work unimpeded and your bright lights work properly without staying on all the time.
You can correct this on the above pictured, but to isolate the ground for the fog and not have the bright lights on you will have to reveres the ground out to fog lamps.
#68
Team Owner
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
nO NEED FOR RELAYS ON A 96, SIMPLY BUY THE CERAMIC H4 TO H3 CONV, CABLE STANDARD PLUG IN AND THAT'S IT .
NOW TO ADDRESS THE FOG LIGHTS, BUY THE SYLVANIA LED BULB CONV. KIT AND AGAIN THE CERAMIC CONVERTER HARNESS THAT
WILL KEEP GROUND ISOLATED TO BOTH THE HEADLIGHTS AND THE FOG LAMPS. (BULB Kit #880- AVAILABLE @ headlightexperts (google it)
THE FOG LIGHTS ARE SO BRIGHT I USE THEM IN LIEU OF THE HEADLIGHTS AS DRIVING LIGHTS (4500 LUMEN)
nO NEED FOR RELAYS ON A 96, SIMPLY BUY THE CERAMIC H4 TO H3 CONV, CABLE STANDARD PLUG IN AND THAT'S IT .
NOW TO ADDRESS THE FOG LIGHTS, BUY THE SYLVANIA LED BULB CONV. KIT AND AGAIN THE CERAMIC CONVERTER HARNESS THAT
WILL KEEP GROUND ISOLATED TO BOTH THE HEADLIGHTS AND THE FOG LAMPS. (BULB Kit #880- AVAILABLE @ headlightexperts (google it)
THE FOG LIGHTS ARE SO BRIGHT I USE THEM IN LIEU OF THE HEADLIGHTS AS DRIVING LIGHTS (4500 LUMEN)
#70
Team Owner
#71
Le Mans Master
Or you could plug THIS inline
#73
There’s obviously more than one way to tackle this. I just recently added led lighting to my 94 and so just went through this. The method I chose was to permanently ground the headlight feed at the fog lamp relay under the passenger side dash. It’s the light green wire in this pic.
With that wire grounded, the headlights and fog lights all function as normal, and also the high beam indicator no longer comes on with the fog lights like it did when I first put in the leds before I did the relay trick.
With that wire grounded, the headlights and fog lights all function as normal, and also the high beam indicator no longer comes on with the fog lights like it did when I first put in the leds before I did the relay trick.
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Either you'll have to install the load resistors (to keep controls, etc. working as stock), OR ground the FOG LIGHT relay (refer to the specific FSM for details/location).
Load resistors... https://www.superbrightleds.com/more...bs/4512/10220/
Save yourself from having to buy/install a handful of load resistors and buy this LED electronic flasher. (eliminates the need for load resistors on turn signals, etc.) https://www.superbrightleds.com/more...asher/781/835/
Check w/ you FSM, but on a 90 this "blinker" switch is behind the hush panel approx where you left kneecap is.
LEDs is one of the best mods ever for the C4, ESPECIALLY when driving at night (as long as you get the projector (DOT approved) lights.)
Load resistors... https://www.superbrightleds.com/more...bs/4512/10220/
Save yourself from having to buy/install a handful of load resistors and buy this LED electronic flasher. (eliminates the need for load resistors on turn signals, etc.) https://www.superbrightleds.com/more...asher/781/835/
Check w/ you FSM, but on a 90 this "blinker" switch is behind the hush panel approx where you left kneecap is.
LEDs is one of the best mods ever for the C4, ESPECIALLY when driving at night (as long as you get the projector (DOT approved) lights.)
Last edited by Paul Workman; 11-10-2018 at 08:04 AM.
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#76
Cruising
There’s obviously more than one way to tackle this. I just recently added led lighting to my 94 and so just went through this. The method I chose was to permanently ground the headlight feed at the fog lamp relay under the passenger side dash. It’s the light green wire in this pic.
With that wire grounded, the headlights and fog lights all function as normal, and also the high beam indicator no longer comes on with the fog lights like it did when I first put in the leds before I did the relay trick.
With that wire grounded, the headlights and fog lights all function as normal, and also the high beam indicator no longer comes on with the fog lights like it did when I first put in the leds before I did the relay trick.