C$ Brake Issue
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Heel & Toe
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From: Bloomington Illinois
C$ Brake Issue
New Corvette owner, 1995 Convertable, 42,000 miles. Brakes just don't seem right. Dealer replaced the booster (wish I would have marked the "old" one before it was replaced). Better but just don't feel like it's right. Mechanic (almost exclusive Corvette tech at the dealership) says they are fine now. Lots of pressure needed to stop. Did I mention LOTS of pressure needed to stop. No fade to pedal, no apparent loss of vacumn in booster. Maybe bad pads? Fluid not good to ???? Pucks bad??
I'm stumped.
Never had a car this bad, I've had a lot of cars but this is my first Corvette.
Thoughts?
I'm stumped.
Never had a car this bad, I've had a lot of cars but this is my first Corvette.
Thoughts?
Pro
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From: Baltimore County MD
Brakes
New Corvette owner, 1995 Convertable, 42,000 miles. Brakes just don't seem right. Dealer replaced the booster (wish I would have marked the "old" one before it was replaced). Better but just don't feel like it's right. Mechanic (almost exclusive Corvette tech at the dealership) says they are fine now. Lots of pressure needed to stop. Did I mention LOTS of pressure needed to stop. No fade to pedal, no apparent loss of vacumn in booster. Maybe bad pads? Fluid not good to ???? Pucks bad??
I'm stumped.
Never had a car this bad, I've had a lot of cars but this is my first Corvette.
Thoughts?
I'm stumped.
Never had a car this bad, I've had a lot of cars but this is my first Corvette.
Thoughts?
Safety Car
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From: San Marcos CA
Some cars are better than others, but they it would seem to be 'normal' that the gain on the master cylinder sucks.
I replaced a booster on a 95 once and no improvement whatsoever. I drove a 94 that was the same...I tried a 96 that felt right, and my 91 ZR-1 is good as well, but it uses a special dual diaphragm booster that is unique to the model.
I replaced a booster on a 95 once and no improvement whatsoever. I drove a 94 that was the same...I tried a 96 that felt right, and my 91 ZR-1 is good as well, but it uses a special dual diaphragm booster that is unique to the model.
Team Owner
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From: San Antonio Texas
I've heard that the anti-lock brake module can cause that problem too. I wish I knew more about the specifics of the problem, but I've heard they can somehow stop half cycled and not let the pressure go to the calipers. Maybe loose power during anti-lock from a blown fuse or something and stop before zeroing out in the home position. Anybody else ever heard of that? ( or did I hear a 
story somewhere )
story somewhere )
Melting Slicks
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From: NC
Could be master cylinder, or fluid. Always start with the fluid. Cheapest, and is honestly the usual culprit. Also, I'd replace your brake lines if they are still stock, after so long they're not going to be worth a *****.
Do a complete purge, and flush it out with cheap DOT3...refill with DOT 4 synthetic, or DOT 5.1.
Do a complete purge, and flush it out with cheap DOT3...refill with DOT 4 synthetic, or DOT 5.1.
Safety Car
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From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
The needing heaps of pedal pressure to stop the car is a common issue with standard low friction brake pads, going to a high metal content brake pad like hawk street pads are the way to go.
My vette had the same problem when i got it, the brakes were awfull i could stand on the pedal and barely slow the car.
New brake booster and still no better, after researching this issue i found the brakes needed high friction, friction brake pads is what does the braking and with hawk brake pads the difference was amazing.
You should easilly be able to get the abs excited, with quite small ammount of pedal effort with good high friction brake pad material.
Of course if the callipers have a rusted piston or bad brake hoses (swollen inside), air in the abs system etc.
My vette had the same problem when i got it, the brakes were awfull i could stand on the pedal and barely slow the car.
New brake booster and still no better, after researching this issue i found the brakes needed high friction, friction brake pads is what does the braking and with hawk brake pads the difference was amazing.
You should easilly be able to get the abs excited, with quite small ammount of pedal effort with good high friction brake pad material.
Of course if the callipers have a rusted piston or bad brake hoses (swollen inside), air in the abs system etc.
Last edited by gerardvg; Feb 26, 2015 at 08:41 PM.
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New Corvette owner, 1995 Convertable, 42,000 miles. Brakes just don't seem right. Dealer replaced the booster (wish I would have marked the "old" one before it was replaced). Better but just don't feel like it's right. Mechanic (almost exclusive Corvette tech at the dealership) says they are fine now. Lots of pressure needed to stop. Did I mention LOTS of pressure needed to stop. No fade to pedal, no apparent loss of vacumn in booster. Maybe bad pads? Fluid not good to ???? Pucks bad??
I'm stumped.
Never had a car this bad, I've had a lot of cars but this is my first Corvette.
Thoughts?
I'm stumped.
Never had a car this bad, I've had a lot of cars but this is my first Corvette.
Thoughts?
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Safety Car
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From: San Marcos CA
To add more info to my post, the 94 and 95 coupes that felt subpar had cheaper part store pads on them. The 95 was Raybestos ceramics I think. Never had a chance to swap them for semi-metallics, but it is true that the single diaphragm plastic brake boosters do not provide a ton of mechanical gain compared to pretty much any other modern car.