Radar Detectors
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Highly recommended reading.
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Originally Posted by Renfield
Highly recommended reading.
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It is a quick, fun read from a veteran law enforcement officer's perspective. I bought it when it was new, 20+ years ago, but most of it still pertains. You can probably find some sample pages online where it's sold.
Radar/Laser detectors can be helpful in certain circumstances. In others, they can guarantee a ticket. But he lays out a complete strategy for their use and other great ideas for improving your odds, both before and after the blue lights come on.
Great to hear The Man talk about the best ways to avoid The Man.
I drive red cars, so it was a must-read.
Radar/Laser detectors can be helpful in certain circumstances. In others, they can guarantee a ticket. But he lays out a complete strategy for their use and other great ideas for improving your odds, both before and after the blue lights come on.
Great to hear The Man talk about the best ways to avoid The Man.
I drive red cars, so it was a must-read.
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Radar Detectors will no longer be sold one day because Video Cameras will be all over America. The Police will be everywhere, and rules will rule America. Picking your nose while driving will set you back a $100 Citation. Whistling or cat calling a woman will get you arrested .... Yes, it will get that bad one day in the near future. Many of you are delusional and in denial because you simply can't handle the truth.
Sorry to be so blunt.
Sorry to be so blunt.
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Radar Detectors will no longer be sold one day because Video Cameras will be all over America. The Police will be everywhere, and rules will rule America. Picking your nose while driving will set you back a $100 Citation. Whistling or cat calling a woman will get you arrested .... Yes, it will get that bad one day in the near future. Many of you are delusional and in denial because you simply can't handle the truth.
Sorry to be so blunt.
Sorry to be so blunt.
I agree that we seem to be on a path toward a surveillance society, much like the UK.
But for the time being, some folks still roll with what's actually happening. Now. Today.
Sorry to be so blunt.
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Radar Detectors will no longer be sold one day because Video Cameras will be all over America. The Police will be everywhere, and rules will rule America. Picking your nose while driving will set you back a $100 Citation. Whistling or cat calling a woman will get you arrested .... Yes, it will get that bad one day in the near future. Many of you are delusional and in denial because you simply can't handle the truth.
Sorry to be so blunt.
Sorry to be so blunt.
C'mon Ray, lighten up. By the time this country gets to where you're talking about, cars will be driving themselves. Besides, who do you suppose is going to pay for all the things you're espousing? In my city, St. Petersburg, FL, cameras have already been banned and removed. There is currently legislation pending to have them banned throughout the state of Florida. We the people still get to vote... try to keep that in mind. 
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Do they even still sell radar detectors? Better question, do most law enforcement agencies still use radar? I'm twenty-five years in LE and I'll tell you that we've been using laser for quite a long time now. I bet the same may be said for a strong majority across the country also. By the time the detector goes off, if it does at all, you're already caught and at distances longer than you can spot the cop and slow.
The technology and accuracy are such that there just aren't effective defenses that work in court. Remember, authors sell books in the same way that the guy on the middle-of-the-night infomercial is selling his house flip "system" to make money instead of using his system do it.
Personally, I don't push it beyond the normal flow of traffic. Where I live the first ticket will cost you more than $200 not counting any increase in insurance premiums. Yes, I have to worry about this just like everyone else. In fact, in today's political climate the guy who definitely isn't getting a break is a cop. When I'm driving the Corvette I'm even more careful than usual about this.
Go with the flow on the street and spend that wasted radar/ laser detector money for track day somewhere.
The technology and accuracy are such that there just aren't effective defenses that work in court. Remember, authors sell books in the same way that the guy on the middle-of-the-night infomercial is selling his house flip "system" to make money instead of using his system do it.
Personally, I don't push it beyond the normal flow of traffic. Where I live the first ticket will cost you more than $200 not counting any increase in insurance premiums. Yes, I have to worry about this just like everyone else. In fact, in today's political climate the guy who definitely isn't getting a break is a cop. When I'm driving the Corvette I'm even more careful than usual about this.
Go with the flow on the street and spend that wasted radar/ laser detector money for track day somewhere.
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Burning Brakes
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Do they even still sell radar detectors? Better question, do most law enforcement agencies still use radar? I'm twenty-five years in LE and I'll tell you that we've been using laser for quite a long time now. I bet the same may be said for a strong majority across the country also. By the time the detector goes off, if it does at all, you're already caught and at distances longer than you can spot the cop and slow.
I had my first radar detector some 30+ years ago and from then to now, between the radar detectors and laser jammers, I haven't had a ticket in that many years.
Please don't take this post as a boast... God knows, I've been lucky and as the years have gone by, I've slowed to almost legal speeds. My point is: there is ample equipment to protect a knowledgable driver from the latest radars and lasers. What we don't have, of course, is a fool proof way of spotting LEO Aviators timing us between known points.
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Do they even still sell radar detectors? Better question, do most law enforcement agencies still use radar? I'm twenty-five years in LE and I'll tell you that we've been using laser for quite a long time now. I bet the same may be said for a strong majority across the country also. By the time the detector goes off, if it does at all, you're already caught and at distances longer than you can spot the cop and slow. The technology and accuracy are such that there just aren't effective defenses that work in court. Remember, authors sell books in the same way that the guy on the middle-of-the-night infomercial is selling his house flip "system" to make money instead of using his system do it. Personally, I don't push it beyond the normal flow of traffic. Where I live the first ticket will cost you more than $200 not counting any increase in insurance premiums. Yes, I have to worry about this just like everyone else. In fact, in today's political climate the guy who definitely isn't getting a break is a cop. When I'm driving the Corvette I'm even more careful than usual about this. Go with the flow on the street and spend that wasted radar/ laser detector money for track day somewhere.
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Radar Detectors will no longer be sold one day because Video Cameras will be all over America. The Police will be everywhere, and rules will rule America. Picking your nose while driving will set you back a $100 Citation. Whistling or cat calling a woman will get you arrested .... Yes, it will get that bad one day in the near future. Many of you are delusional and in denial because you simply can't handle the truth.
Sorry to be so blunt.
Sorry to be so blunt.
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From: Shit Creek, USA
For that' we have laser jammers. They send back a null reading and while the LEO is trying to get a better aim on a car so equipped, we slow to the speed limit and turn the jammers off.
I had my first radar detector some 30+ years ago and from then to now, between the radar detectors and laser jammers, I haven't had a ticket in that many years.
Please don't take this post as a boast... God knows, I've been lucky and as the years have gone by, I've slowed to almost legal speeds. My point is: there is ample equipment to protect a knowledgable driver from the latest radars and lasers. What we don't have, of course, is a fool proof way of spotting LEO Aviators timing us between known points.
I had my first radar detector some 30+ years ago and from then to now, between the radar detectors and laser jammers, I haven't had a ticket in that many years.
Please don't take this post as a boast... God knows, I've been lucky and as the years have gone by, I've slowed to almost legal speeds. My point is: there is ample equipment to protect a knowledgable driver from the latest radars and lasers. What we don't have, of course, is a fool proof way of spotting LEO Aviators timing us between known points.
Montana had it right in the 90's. Drive whatever speed is reasonable and prudent. Boy did that PeeOh the feds.
Ultimately, revenue won.
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I want to sell it right before it disappears, that's why I'm asking. So if you could put a date range around your prediction, that would be great. Thanks in advance....
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Most of you all are typical of the masses. You refuse to believe the unfortunate truth where our country is headed... Have you noticed that Video Cameras are everywhere? And everybody has a Cell Phone. Speeding will one day cease to exist as the Gov will raise the citations to over $500 and the points will triple for a simple speeding ticket. I know this because I am privy to insider information. Valetine One has suffered for many years and they are n the verge of shutting down. People will buy less and less sport cars because they only good for speeding. We will be a country of small 4 cylinder Japanese cars and big SUVs.
The truth hurts.
The truth hurts.
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Most of you all are typical of the masses. You refuse to believe the unfortunate truth where our country is headed... Have you noticed that Video Cameras are everywhere? And everybody has a Cell Phone. Speeding will one day cease to exist as the Gov will raise the citations to over $500 and the points will triple for a simple speeding ticket. I know this because I am privy to insider information. Valetine One has suffered for many years and they are n the verge of shutting down. People will buy less and less sport cars because they only good for speeding. We will be a country of small 4 cylinder Japanese cars and big SUVs.
The truth hurts.
The truth hurts.
A necessary step when the disparity in income becomes as great as it now is in America.
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Most of you all are typical of the masses. You refuse to believe the unfortunate truth where our country is headed... Have you noticed that Video Cameras are everywhere? And everybody has a Cell Phone. Speeding will one day cease to exist as the Gov will raise the citations to over $500 and the points will triple for a simple speeding ticket. I know this because I am privy to insider information. Valetine One has suffered for many years and they are n the verge of shutting down. People will buy less and less sport cars because they only good for speeding. We will be a country of small 4 cylinder Japanese cars and big SUVs.
The truth hurts.
The truth hurts.
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about the "disappear date". 
At ^this guy! Is THAT all sports cars are good for!? No one told me!
In REALITY (a place you might consider exploring), sports cars are great for lots of things....besides "speeding".
BTW "Speed kills" is an out dated, red herring, worthless mode of thinking. It's actually speed differential that causes accidents (whether the ACCIDENT kills or not, is another matter entirely). I believe speed limits in this country have gone UP in the past 30 year or so, while death percentages (and total deaths) have gone DOWN. Speed limits here in UT are 80 now. Are we all "killing ourselves" over here?
Either way, all this rhetoric is WAY outside the realm of this thread. OP wanted to know about radar detector performance...not your personal philosophies about speeding.
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Isn't interesting how a topic on "what's the best" device spans religion, common sense, politics, morality, law and order, laws of physics, statistics, economics, sensibility, logic and personality traits. Some do and some don't; to some its just a game. Some will and some won't and to some its just the same. Drive safe boys and girls.
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Most of you all are typical of the masses. You refuse to believe the unfortunate truth where our country is headed...
Have you noticed that Video Cameras are everywhere? And everybody has a Cell Phone. Speeding will one day cease to exist as the Gov will raise the citations to over $500 and the points will triple for a simple speeding ticket. I know this because I am privy to insider information. Valetine One has suffered for many years and they are n the verge of shutting down. People will buy less and less sport cars because they only good for speeding. We will be a country of small 4 cylinder Japanese cars and big SUVs.
Have you noticed that Video Cameras are everywhere? And everybody has a Cell Phone. Speeding will one day cease to exist as the Gov will raise the citations to over $500 and the points will triple for a simple speeding ticket. I know this because I am privy to insider information. Valetine One has suffered for many years and they are n the verge of shutting down. People will buy less and less sport cars because they only good for speeding. We will be a country of small 4 cylinder Japanese cars and big SUVs.
Until the world goes Orwellian, I'm gonna have fun!
