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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 07:25 PM
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Default Vette gets a cooling upgrade UPDATE

Just bought this for my 92.

https://www.speedcooling.com/1990-1996-Corvette-LT1-Aluminum-Radiator-Automatic-Transmission.html

I know it's not a Dewitt's, but it has the same features plus an extra row of tubes when compared to the single row dewitts for less, but more than the real el-cheapos on eBay.

Looking forward to axing that plastic tank stock unit! Question though...if I disconnect the lines going to the A/C radiator or condenser (?), does that completely depressurize the A/C system? I'd like to remove it to clean it with a garden hose. Thanks.

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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 07:29 PM
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why do you need to disconnect it? just clean it there. and yes and a big fine if caught plus new parts.

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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 07:31 PM
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No, I'm talking about the a/c system radiator that sits in front of the coolant radiator. Big aluminum pipes going to it.
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 07:37 PM
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Yes the lines going to the condenser are pressurized. You should be able to remove the radiator and have room to rinse the condenser. Don't get to aggressive though or you'll bend the cooling fins, which will probably happen a little when removing and installing the new radiator. Be careful around the condenser.
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Roys92BlackRose
No, I'm talking about the a/c system radiator that sits in front of the coolant radiator. Big aluminum pipes going to it.
Yes, if you disconnect it you will lose all your freon.
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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 07:39 PM
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Ok then, thanks. Reason I asked is that I've heard the terms low pressure side and high pressure side, and thought the low pressure side was not pressurized at all unless the engine is running.
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Originally Posted by Roys92BlackRose
No, I'm talking about the a/c system radiator that sits in front of the coolant radiator. Big aluminum pipes going to it.
ok just changed my answer. you missed it sorry.

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Old Jan 13, 2016 | 08:36 PM
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It's a bit like propane. Open it up and the liquid freon boils and turns to gas, the high psi side is already gas I believe, the low it's closer to a refrigerated liquid.
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Originally Posted by trilkb
It's a bit like propane. Open it up and the liquid freon boils and turns to gas, the high psi side is already gas I believe, the low it's closer to a refrigerated liquid.
That's backward, really. It's the act of the high-pressure liquid boiling into a gas as it goes through the orifice and suddenly hits low pressure that absorbs the heat out of the surroundings and makes the evaporate cold. But it's all academic for this thread, because when the a/c system isn't running it's all at low pressure and it's all gas. And it will all escape to the atmosphere if the OP opens any part of the system.

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I'd be interested to hear how the install of this radiator goes. Can you let us know if there are any issues fitting in the original location or if the hoses all connect like the original. Can you post any pics of it installed?

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Old Jan 14, 2016 | 11:40 AM
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It's a "fun" job, but can be accomplished without a hitch if you take it slow and methodical. I replaced mine in my 95 vert in June of 2015. The hardest part is not getting frustrated and breaking or bending something. The radiator shroud is a pain. But I didn't remove the condenser and gently moved the lines out of the way. They are aluminum and will tolerate some movement as long as it's not at an acute angle.
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It's not a bad job at all, IMO...

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Originally Posted by Fastnail
I'd be interested to hear how the install of this radiator goes. Can you let us know if there are any issues fitting in the original location or if the hoses all connect like the original. Can you post any pics of it installed?

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Will do. The pics look like it matches a Dewitt in size and shape, and it also requires a bit of trimming to the rubber mounts like the dewitts 2 core. I expect no problems.
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Will do. The pics look like it matches a Dewitt in size and shape, and it also requires a bit of trimming to the rubber mounts like the dewitts 2 core. I expect no problems.
Update on the Engineered Cooling Products radiator I bought. Unfortunately, it is warped and distorted enough to have to return it. Also, it does not have the tube for the reserve tank overflow hose, only a threaded plug that I would have to go find an adapter to fit it. The threaded hole is not a pipe thread so I would have to use some kind of thread sealer, a possible leak point in the future. Communication with the company has been good and I am awaiting an RMA. I had high hopes for this product and I would've probably used it if it wasn't so warped and it had the right fittings. The welding looks good and overall seems to be a decent radiator. I just don't want to risk fitment issues and possible leakage considering the labor involved in replacing a C4 radiator. I suppose I'll bite the bullet and go with Dewitts.







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Thanks for the update. Sorry to hear that there were problems with the new radiator, hope you don't have any issues with the return of it.

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I certainty hope the shipping box was damaged, otherwise; that's how it left Quality Control!
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Originally Posted by desertmike1
I certainty hope the shipping box was damaged, otherwise; that's how it left Quality Control!
The box showed no impact damage, nor did the radiator itself. I was told by the seller that it can happen due to the heat process, but you're right. It should have been melted down and remade. I would have accepted a replacement but they said they do not open the boxes to check for defects (designed in US, made in China), nor could they weld on the missing nipple for the overflow tube. So back it went. On the bright side, they paid return shipping and waived the 20% restocking fee
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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 04:02 PM
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You won't be sorry with a Dewitt's Radiator. Great quality
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Originally Posted by Roys92BlackRose
The box showed no impact damage, nor did the radiator itself. I was told by the seller that it can happen due to the heat process, but you're right. It should have been melted down and remade. I would have accepted a replacement but they said they do not open the boxes to check for defects (designed in US, made in China), nor could they weld on the missing nipple for the overflow tube. So back it went. On the bright side, they paid return shipping and waived the 20% restocking fee
Then you did OK so far!

What are you going to do next?
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Originally Posted by desertmike1
Then you did OK so far!

What are you going to do next?
I would have liked to get a 2 row Dewitts but cant justify $600 for a radiator. The single row should suffice and still cool better than stock, but even that is close to $400. Still contemplating options. Any suggestions other than Dewitts?
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