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Old Feb 22, 2016 | 02:32 PM
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So all of a sudden this weekend my 88' will not start. Usually starts right up but now it only sounds like it wants to start but doesn't. I've got fuel, air and spark so not sure what's going on. I'm starting to think that VATS has disabled car but I thought that if that was the case....it wouldn't turn over. Been reading that it could be pickup coil or ignition module but want to see what's more likely the issue before I start throwing money at issue. Any help here would be great appreciated. Thanks!
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You might want to check for codes first. Pick up coil sends signal to module. Module sends signal to ignition coil to make spark and ECM to turn on injectors. ECM grounds injectors to turn them on and take over timing after engine starts. Failed pick up coil - no spark or injector pulse. Failed module - either no spark or no injector pulse normally and possibly EST code stored. ECM normally no injector pulse and possible code stored. It you have spark at 2 spark plugs, fuel pressure is over 35 psi, and noid or test light blinks in the injector connectors. It must be timing, compression, or both. I would do a compression test. very low compression I would suspect timing chain failure. If you don't have compression gauge you could roll engine over until timing mark is at TDC on indicator the remove distributor cap and see if rotor is pointing at either #1 or #6. If it doesn't that also would indicate failed timing chain.

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Originally Posted by czarredd
Been reading that it could be pickup coil or ignition module but want to see what's more likely the issue before I start throwing money at issue. Any help here would be great appreciated. Thanks!
You can have the ignition module tested at most auto parts stores.

The pickup coil should measure around 800 ohms.

Spray starting fluid into the throttle body and then try to start it. If it starts briefly then the ignition system is OK and you should be looking at the fuel system.
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Could faulty TPS cause car not to start? Also, how likely is it that VATS is causing this issue?
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Old Feb 23, 2016 | 09:36 AM
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Not the vats test your icm and coil if it does not fire with starter fluid

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So discovered that my VATS module is fried and that the starter had already been bypassed by previous owner. Is there a way to bypass VATS completely without buying $100 chip?
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Yes. I can't remember which thread it was but there is a pic of a by pass harness. I'm thinking of getting one as a backup in case I get stuck somewhere and the VATS attacks! If I see it, I will reference to it. I saw it not long ago on the front page. Maybe someone will chime in. Look on some of the key/ignition threads.

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So the culprit was a fried VATS module. Somehow water got to module and ruined it. My mechanic configured a bypass chip and car started right up. Thanks for all the info guys.
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