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Be ready to fight multiple large scale wars on many different fronts at all times. Be man enough for a strategic retreat when your wrong, and fight to the death when you know your right. No matter what, have the courage to stick your neck out if you have something to say.
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That's twice in what 3 days ?? You must not value your business very much if this is how you talk to folks who could possibly need your services. Keep it up and I bet some really bad things are in your future.
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I NEVER stated a fixed ratio of anykind for A/F. Why did you mention this like I did? To the best of my knowledge my statements are true. IF you have a problem with that then, IDK what to tell you? I made the statement in good faith, no need to call it BS when it isn't or insult me.
My comments in RED.
My comments in RED.
my point is that id the o2 is used for BLM operation and is not accurate at 12.5 AFR then prove your claim to me of what controls BLM at WOT? Therefore, id the O2 is not controlling BLM then it defaults to 128 and the % added.
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My intentions were not meant to insult you in any way. My apologies if you took it as such.
my point is that id the o2 is used for BLM operation and is not accurate at 12.5 AFR then prove your claim to me of what controls BLM at WOT? Therefore, id the O2 is not controlling BLM then it defaults to 128 and the % added.
my point is that id the o2 is used for BLM operation and is not accurate at 12.5 AFR then prove your claim to me of what controls BLM at WOT? Therefore, id the O2 is not controlling BLM then it defaults to 128 and the % added.
I cannot "prove" the claim about BLM at WOT. To the best of my knowledge it is based on inputs ( as I stated before) just not the 02 and built in ECM programming. It may well be a added % of some kind.
The 128 on the tool display to the best of my knowledge is a default when in open loop. In closed loop we know it can run much higher or lower so it is reasonable to assume under OPEN loop it does the same however not sure how to view this.
ECM's substitute default values all the time if a fault occurs or in open loop. Not uncommon to see them on scan tool or data logger of some kind at all.
Your talking about going into and messing with the basic programming and mapping. Not an area I am well versed in. I never had a reason to be so....
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I agree the narrow band 02 is not accurate at 12.5. In fact they only basically read from about 14.0 to 15.0 A/F.
I cannot "prove" the claim about BLM at WOT. To the best of my knowledge it is based on inputs ( as I stated before) just not the 02 and built in ECM programming. It may well be a added % of some kind.
The 128 on the tool display to the best of my knowledge is a default when in open loop. In closed loop we know it can run much higher or lower so it is reasonable to assume under OPEN loop it does the same however not sure how to view this.
ECM's substitute default values all the time if a fault occurs or in open loop. Not uncommon to see them on scan tool or data logger of some kind at all.
Your talking about going into and messing with the basic programming and mapping. Not an area I am well versed in. I never had a reason to be so....
I cannot "prove" the claim about BLM at WOT. To the best of my knowledge it is based on inputs ( as I stated before) just not the 02 and built in ECM programming. It may well be a added % of some kind.
The 128 on the tool display to the best of my knowledge is a default when in open loop. In closed loop we know it can run much higher or lower so it is reasonable to assume under OPEN loop it does the same however not sure how to view this.
ECM's substitute default values all the time if a fault occurs or in open loop. Not uncommon to see them on scan tool or data logger of some kind at all.
Your talking about going into and messing with the basic programming and mapping. Not an area I am well versed in. I never had a reason to be so....
