coolant lines / throttle body
12-08-2017, 11:21 PM
#42
Team Owner
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT that tid bit of cooler and marginally denser air will make it worth your while when you are burning more fuel during the winter time, which is where I noticed the mileage difference in my years of logging.
Well, when you warm up air and mix a small spray of gasoline, don't you produce a better vapor from this? There is something to having all those incoming air molecules striking the hot throttle body and blades before making their way to the intake runners and ports for combustion.
since the police love to single my car out for being a sports car! Plenty of people around me drive dull and average cars, I don't see them getting the attention that my slower driving sports car gets from law enforcement!
Well, don't you sound like a smart fellow, removing those dorky air bags for a daily driver? Well, explain to me how more vacuum pressure does NOT relate to fuel consumption! The winning combination, in my mind, is increased low end torque and plenty of vacuum production. Being the dork that I am, I am thinking that pairing the TPI intake with my factory camshaft along with complimentary bolt on parts, shall give me the lame duck performance boost I seek while helping me maintain, IF NOT, marginally increase my fuel economy a bit more.
Well, when you warm up air and mix a small spray of gasoline, don't you produce a better vapor from this? There is something to having all those incoming air molecules striking the hot throttle body and blades before making their way to the intake runners and ports for combustion.
since the police love to single my car out for being a sports car! Plenty of people around me drive dull and average cars, I don't see them getting the attention that my slower driving sports car gets from law enforcement!
Well, don't you sound like a smart fellow, removing those dorky air bags for a daily driver? Well, explain to me how more vacuum pressure does NOT relate to fuel consumption! The winning combination, in my mind, is increased low end torque and plenty of vacuum production. Being the dork that I am, I am thinking that pairing the TPI intake with my factory camshaft along with complimentary bolt on parts, shall give me the lame duck performance boost I seek while helping me maintain, IF NOT, marginally increase my fuel economy a bit more.
How much warmer is the air? How much better is the vapor when your injectors are making that vapor?
If you are that afraid of the police singling you out, perhaps you need to drive a car that doesn't look like it is speeding when standing still.
If you have the money, commission such an intake. Being the self admitted dork and mad scientist, do it right. Put it on an engine dyno and do controlled test otherwise, all you got is a SWAG.
12-08-2017, 11:25 PM
#43
Team Owner
IIRC, while we THINK that means death, in actual situations, it might just be the opposite.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thumb_signal
According to Anthony Corbeill, a classical studies professor who extensively researched the practice, thumbs up signalled killing the gladiator while "a closed fist with a wraparound thumb" meant sparing him.[5][6]
12-09-2017, 06:56 AM
#44
Le Mans Master
I have seen two cases of iced carbs. Neither had manifold heat. One was when I was working the oil/gas fields in Whoming. Completely (almost)m closed off the throats. The other was when I installed a 4 brl carb on my 6 banger ford pick up. It happens.
Last edited by ghoastrider1; 12-09-2017 at 06:56 AM.
12-09-2017, 07:57 AM
#45
Race Director
Yes it does. Early model s-10 trucks (82-85) with the 2.8 engine actually had heating element as part of the carb gasket. This worked ok until it stopped working. Once heater failed, then that sucker would freeze solid and the truck wouldn't run for 15 minutes until the block of ice formed on the heating element would melt.
12-09-2017, 08:55 AM
#46
Team Owner
Pro Mechanic
I agree with the others. I would give you the boot if I were a mod.
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Last edited by Tom400CFI; 12-09-2017 at 09:00 AM.
12-09-2017, 09:34 AM
#47
Race Director
This is a game for him, don't think its not. There has been a veritable avalanche of evidence along the way.
Honestly, it was pretty dam funny the way everyone was getting sucked into it, but now he is struggling to find people to play the game on. His original threads are dead, and the number of people willing to engage him is quickly shrinking. This is why he is infecting other threads. He is still playing the game.
The best way forward here would be for him to start participating in an honorable way. He has already made a hell of an introduction for himself, that's for sure.
Eventually, there will be a time to start the game again. In the future there will be people to play the game on. Now is not that time. Now its time to stop.
12-09-2017, 05:43 PM
#48
Oh he gets it alright.
This is a game for him, don't think its not. There has been a veritable avalanche of evidence along the way.
Honestly, it was pretty dam funny the way everyone was getting sucked into it, but now he is struggling to find people to play the game on. His original threads are dead, and the number of people willing to engage him is quickly shrinking. This is why he is infecting other threads. He is still playing the game.
The best way forward here would be for him to start participating in an honorable way. He has already made a hell of an introduction for himself, that's for sure.
Eventually, there will be a time to start the game again. In the future there will be people to play the game on. Now is not that time. Now its time to stop.
This is a game for him, don't think its not. There has been a veritable avalanche of evidence along the way.
Honestly, it was pretty dam funny the way everyone was getting sucked into it, but now he is struggling to find people to play the game on. His original threads are dead, and the number of people willing to engage him is quickly shrinking. This is why he is infecting other threads. He is still playing the game.
The best way forward here would be for him to start participating in an honorable way. He has already made a hell of an introduction for himself, that's for sure.
Eventually, there will be a time to start the game again. In the future there will be people to play the game on. Now is not that time. Now its time to stop.
Last edited by Phoenix'97; 12-09-2017 at 05:44 PM.
12-09-2017, 06:41 PM
#49
Team Owner
Pro Mechanic
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Last edited by Tom400CFI; 12-09-2017 at 06:45 PM.
12-09-2017, 08:00 PM
#50
Race Director
I love how people loosely throw around the label of "troll" for people they have a disagreement with of some kind! I am not playing games, I am serious as can be, and I have a different notion of performance modding than you do! Don't force your crap on me when I am trying to balance which of your suggestions work best for my build goals.
12-09-2017, 09:08 PM
#52
I know you are ganging up on me. This only proves what kind of guys you are and what kind of forum this is for people who are seeking to modify their cars outside of the scope that you modify your cars. I thought this place was going to be different but you are no different! I won't stop commenting because I am not trolling. I have legitimate questions and plans to eventually modify my car. This internet bullying you are engaging in only proves what kind of guys you are! I don't need to belittle and bully people on an internet forum to force them to leave.
12-09-2017, 09:54 PM
#53
Team Owner
I know you are ganging up on me. This only proves what kind of guys you are and what kind of forum this is for people who are seeking to modify their cars outside of the scope that you modify your cars. I thought this place was going to be different but you are no different! I won't stop commenting because I am not trolling. I have legitimate questions and plans to eventually modify my car.
This internet bullying you are engaging in only proves what kind of guys you are! I don't need to belittle and bully people on an internet forum to force them to leave.
This internet bullying you are engaging in only proves what kind of guys you are! I don't need to belittle and bully people on an internet forum to force them to leave.
12-09-2017, 10:09 PM
#54
Team Owner
12-10-2017, 12:42 PM
#55
Team Owner
Pro Mechanic
12-11-2017, 03:16 PM
#56
I know you are ganging up on me. This only proves what kind of guys you are and what kind of forum this is for people who are seeking to modify their cars outside of the scope that you modify your cars. I thought this place was going to be different but you are no different! I won't stop commenting because I am not trolling. I have legitimate questions and plans to eventually modify my car. This internet bullying you are engaging in only proves what kind of guys you are! I don't need to belittle and bully people on an internet forum to force them to leave.
going to say it again...Moderators????
Penix is trolling and admits to not owning a Vette after some discussion uncovered it. I think the f body forum handled him already.
Lets have a vote poll.
12-11-2017, 10:00 PM
#57
Team Owner
01-01-2018, 05:56 PM
#58
I bypassed my 89 L98 with aluminum heads, made a noticeable difference. Idles better, runs stronger and holds a 185-195 coolant temp with stock HD rad and fans. I can have it run for a good drive, bring it home, pop the hood and touch the intake without burning my hand. Cooler air entering the intake and heads is never a bad thing, especially for C4s. One of the main purposes of your EGR system, in addition to burning off more NOx, was to cool head temps so the timing could be advanced and increase fuel economy. Cooler air through the intake only helps that process. Enjoy the "free" mod, you wont be sorry you did it
01-02-2018, 10:12 AM
#59
Team Owner
I bypassed my 89 L98 with aluminum heads, made a noticeable difference. Idles better, runs stronger and holds a 185-195 coolant temp with stock HD rad and fans. I can have it run for a good drive, bring it home, pop the hood and touch the intake without burning my hand. Cooler air entering the intake and heads is never a bad thing, especially for C4s. One of the main purposes of your EGR system, in addition to burning off more NOx, was to cool head temps so the timing could be advanced and increase fuel economy. Cooler air through the intake only helps that process. Enjoy the "free" mod, you wont be sorry you did it
When trying out recoil dampening springs on one of my guns, I did a blind test with the wife. I don't tell her which did and I ask her to rate 3 configurations without telling her anything. I just ask her to give me her opinion on which feels better but she doesn't know what what order she is getting them and what load she is firing with what.
01-02-2018, 10:36 AM
#60
I don't know if it will give you all that just from the slightly cooler air going in. ECM should adjust. TB gets a lot of heat from the engine. If I still had the stock IAC housing, I would connect it back to see what the ECM sees. I'm skeptical about what a person feels since it is so subjective and susceptible to the Placebo effect.
When trying out recoil dampening springs on one of my guns, I did a blind test with the wife. I don't tell her which did and I ask her to rate 3 configurations without telling her anything. I just ask her to give me her opinion on which feels better but she doesn't know what what order she is getting them and what load she is firing with what.
When trying out recoil dampening springs on one of my guns, I did a blind test with the wife. I don't tell her which did and I ask her to rate 3 configurations without telling her anything. I just ask her to give me her opinion on which feels better but she doesn't know what what order she is getting them and what load she is firing with what.