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Racer
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Yeah the 350 crate would be the most cost efficient, but that ls motor sure would look sexy sitting down in that engine bay, and its not often that a man has permission per wife's request to buy parts.....
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From: Melbourne, FL
Personally, I'd go the old faithful route, a ZZ4. Or if you feel like throwing money at it (or 355hp isn't enough), go for a ZZ6 setup with an EFI setup (and over 400hp) for like $7k. And then you've got the most bulletproof engine ever, totally drivable, with a TON of power. And you didn't spend a huge amount of money to get caught up in LS fever.
As someone who has 2 LS vehicles and an LT vehicle, the LS isn't that much better. It's a good motor, but so is the LT, and so are normal SBCs.
As someone who has 2 LS vehicles and an LT vehicle, the LS isn't that much better. It's a good motor, but so is the LT, and so are normal SBCs.
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To each their own...
Still the same car if you paint it, and haw much value does it add?
For me noise, power and handling = fun which = value to me.
No way I would spend 6k on ANY c4 ANY!
Then again most here would be embarrassed to have my car...
Safety Car
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Just a crap GM paint job with 60,000 miles on the clock.
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If the paint is not chipped up etc, maybe try a true detailer... they can work wonders sometimes.
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Well if you invested that much already and like the car I guess I can see getting a paint job. 6k though sounds high, my question to the painter is what makes it 6k? his "quality"?I think if you look around 3k can be done by a real body man that cares to make money not wait to make money here and there.
If the paint is not chipped up etc, maybe try a true detailer... they can work wonders sometimes.
If the paint is not chipped up etc, maybe try a true detailer... they can work wonders sometimes.
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Safety Car
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Well if you invested that much already and like the car I guess I can see getting a paint job. 6k though sounds high, my question to the painter is what makes it 6k? his "quality"?I think if you look around 3k can be done by a real body man that cares to make money not wait to make money here and there.
If the paint is not chipped up etc, maybe try a true detailer... they can work wonders sometimes.
If the paint is not chipped up etc, maybe try a true detailer... they can work wonders sometimes.
What I need fixed is beyond paint correctio from a detailer.
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As Aklim stated, it needs to be done right. Remove all trim, emblems, side mirrors, doors, hatch glass. Prep everywhere, paint everywhere. Put new emblems on, new weatherstrip, replace any damaged trim. If I wanted show quality flawless paint cost goes up to 10k.
What I need fixed is beyond paint correctio from a detailer.
What I need fixed is beyond paint correctio from a detailer.
we make choices. 6-10k in paint on a car that insurance has no interest in fixing.Throw 10k in to performance and beat on c8's when they come out with your lowly c4.
To be clear I am not knocking you, to each their own. Sounds like a nice car and when finished will be awesome and enjoyable for you.
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Pro
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From: Jackson Wisconsin
Its not what its worth to someone else. Its about what its worth to you. There is no need anywhere but the race track for more than 400HP, yet many drivers pony up into 6 figures for a $25,000 car with 700HP. I guess its still about who has the bigger dog and whose dad can beat up whose.
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Its not what its worth to someone else. Its about what its worth to you. There is no need anywhere but the race track for more than 400HP, yet many drivers pony up into 6 figures for a $25,000 car with 700HP. I guess its still about who has the bigger dog and whose dad can beat up whose.
It has just been recent that you can get 700hp in American cars and cost up to 70K.
For 70k I could have a c4 that would kill ANYTHING not worth a mansion.
My motor can push 1200 if needed... to me still not impressive number wise compared to what people run on the net, but you are right 700hp/tq can be a lot in a 3200lb or less car.
For me it is the fun factor. I'd rather have a crazy fast boat, but not many places by me to use them and the big ones that go 150+ suck too much gas even if I could justify it.
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If I boated more than 1 or 2 time a year, I would like to have a better pair of Jetskis. Otherwise, it really not worth it. Best I can do, justification wise is get a pair of EFI supercharged ones that are older
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From: Clifton Park, NY ............Clearwater, FL ... 85 Original Owner
Well if you invested that much already and like the car I guess I can see getting a paint job. 6k though sounds high, my question to the painter is what makes it 6k? his "quality"?I think if you look around 3k can be done by a real body man that cares to make money not wait to make money here and there.
If the paint is not chipped up etc, maybe try a true detailer... they can work wonders sometimes.
If the paint is not chipped up etc, maybe try a true detailer... they can work wonders sometimes.
Burning Brakes
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From: Airdrie Alberta
I would paint the car myself, probably less than $1k
and save all of that money up for a decent LS stroker. Geez, you can build LS engine bigger than 500ci these days.
pologreen1, you have a 1200HP C4 car? Wow that would be tons of fun. I was shootin for 700-800rwhp myself, of course down the road.
and save all of that money up for a decent LS stroker.
Geez, you can build LS engine bigger than 500ci these days.pologreen1, you have a 1200HP C4 car? Wow that would be tons of fun. I was shootin for 700-800rwhp myself, of course down the road.
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Burning Brakes
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I wouldn't be afraid to paint my car in my garage. Lots paint jobs have been done that way. My car is white and would paint very easy. The panels on my car line up decent, and so all I would be a skuff and shoot for the paint. Buff out the orange peel. Not a show car, but should turn out decently.
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I wouldn't be afraid to paint my car in my garage. Lots paint jobs have been done that way. My car is white and would paint very easy. The panels on my car line up decent, and so all I would be a skuff and shoot for the paint. Buff out the orange peel. Not a show car, but should turn out decently.