C4 General Discussion General C4 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech

What engine

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 07:59 AM
  #1  
Chad74's Avatar
Chad74
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 33
Likes: 2
From: Celina Texas
Default What engine

I need a new engine in my 1990 automatic. What engine would you'll put in? Also what other upgrades would you do?
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 08:22 AM
  #2  
midlifecrisis1979's Avatar
midlifecrisis1979
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 313
Likes: 20
Default

Originally Posted by Chad74
I need a new engine in my 1990 automatic. What engine would you'll put in? Also what other upgrades would you do?
Cheapest way for a factory crate motor that would meet your original HP and keep TPI would be an l31 crate motor and an SDPC Vortec to TPI intake. Chevy has a 250 rebate now so you could probably get out the door for less than 2500 on the two items. That's not bad for a brand new motor that will run for 200k miles if you take care of it. I love the LS motor conversions that guys around here are doing....and the sky is the limit if you got the bucks, lots of cool crate motors to choose from.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 08:24 AM
  #3  
PatternDayTrader's Avatar
PatternDayTrader
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 17,982
Likes: 1,074
From: Lansing MI
Default

There are tons of 383 engine builders. I would give all of them serious consideration, then pick the one I thought would be best.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 08:37 AM
  #4  
Cruisinfanatic's Avatar
Cruisinfanatic
Le Mans Master
Supporting Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 6,228
Likes: 698
From: Clifton Park, NY ............Clearwater, FL ... 85 Original Owner
Default

Originally Posted by midlifecrisis1979
Cheapest way for a factory crate motor that would meet your original HP and keep TPI would be an l31 crate motor and an SDPC Vortec to TPI intake. Chevy has a 250 rebate now so you could probably get out the door for less than 2500 on the two items. That's not bad for a brand new motor that will run for 200k miles if you take care of it. I love the LS motor conversions that guys around here are doing....and the sky is the limit if you got the bucks, lots of cool crate motors to choose from.
How much installed if you had to take a guess?
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 09:24 AM
  #5  
midlifecrisis1979's Avatar
midlifecrisis1979
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 313
Likes: 20
Default

Originally Posted by Cruisinfanatic
How much installed if you had to take a guess?
Get multiple quotes, and go with the guy who has a good reputation, and stands behind his work. Cheapest isn't always the best.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 09:36 AM
  #6  
Paul Workman's Avatar
Paul Workman
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 6,314
Likes: 508
From: South-central Missouri
Default

Originally Posted by PatternDayTrader
There are tons of 383 engine builders. I would give all of them serious consideration, then pick the one I thought would be best.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 10:41 AM
  #7  
aklim's Avatar
aklim
Team Owner
Active Streak: 60 Days
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 28,502
Likes: 3,302
From: Hartford WI
Default

Originally Posted by Chad74
I need a new engine in my 1990 automatic. What engine would you'll put in? Also what other upgrades would you do?
Mission statement? Bank Statement? Without those, we can't help you. Be happy to guess all day long.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 11:18 AM
  #8  
Chad74's Avatar
Chad74
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 33
Likes: 2
From: Celina Texas
Default

Originally Posted by aklim
Mission statement? Bank Statement? Without those, we can't help you. Be happy to guess all day long.
If it was my decision I would sell the 90 as is and go buy a mid 2000 model, but its not my decision. The car has more sentimental value to my wife than dollar value to me. So instead of grabbing the bull by the horns, I am turning and retreating. Happy wife, happy life

The car is in great original condition other than the engine. Not looking to build a race car but would like a little performance.
Looking for something I can take on a Sunday or a car show and a third vehicle if one of ours is in the shop.

As for as the bank statement goes, looking at $10-15k. The lower the better but I want quality as I don't see this car leaving our possession for a while.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

2027 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 First Look: Everything You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

5 Best & 5 Worst Corvette Daily Drivers

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

The Headlights of Every Corvette Generation Explained

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-8

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 11:24 AM
  #9  
aklim's Avatar
aklim
Team Owner
Active Streak: 60 Days
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 28,502
Likes: 3,302
From: Hartford WI
Default

Originally Posted by Chad74
If it was my decision I would sell the 90 as is and go buy a mid 2000 model, but its not my decision. The car has more sentimental value to my wife than dollar value to me. So instead of grabbing the bull by the horns, I am turning and retreating. Happy wife, happy life

The car is in great original condition other than the engine. Not looking to build a race car but would like a little performance.
Looking for something I can take on a Sunday or a car show and a third vehicle if one of ours is in the shop.

As for as the bank statement goes, looking at $10-15k. The lower the better but I want quality as I don't see this car leaving our possession for a while.
Here is the issue. The more you make, power wise, the more things you are going to have to upgrade. When I stuffed a 383 in the car, the trans and rear end started to go south. When all was settled, my car got wrecked and the engine and trans was transferred to the current C4. Well, the rear end broke a couple of teeth and now a D44 sits there. I know, I was told it wouldn't be an issue with the D36 if you don't have slicks. My teeth broke anyways on street tires so I went with a 3.54 D44 rear end.

If you are going to keep the car, get a D44 and a 383 and a beefed up 700R4. $15K should be reasonably comfortable since you will need to get the intakes and headers for the motor section. I wouldn't use the stock intake or exhaust manifold so LT headers if you can and whatever combination the builder recommends.

Edit: Do you have a dyno tuner nearby that will tune it for you or are you willing to travel? If neither, your option is to accept a "guess a tune" where you tell them what mods you have and they guess what you need. This is a C4 and there are less and less people wanting to tune it. Good thing is that once tuned, unless you make major mods, you won't need to tune again for a LONG while.

Last edited by aklim; Dec 20, 2017 at 11:35 AM.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 11:54 AM
  #10  
midlifecrisis1979's Avatar
midlifecrisis1979
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 313
Likes: 20
Default



15k budget and likes newer tech? I'd be all over this!
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 11:57 AM
  #11  
aklim's Avatar
aklim
Team Owner
Active Streak: 60 Days
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 28,502
Likes: 3,302
From: Hartford WI
Default

Originally Posted by midlifecrisis1979


15k budget and likes newer tech? I'd be all over this!
I would too.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 01:26 PM
  #12  
pologreen1's Avatar
pologreen1
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 20,974
Likes: 261
Default

632ci or LS7 built. Build for future boost. JMO

With HP comes all upgrades imaginable and then some. Enjoy the ride.

Or stay around 400hp and your trans might last a little while, but if you go 450-500 things start acting different.


With your budget for your build... I had my '90 built essentially for the same reasons by a member here with as many used parts as possible, but most new. Cheap labor, and tuning. Build is over 20k.

Still a '90, still auto, don't care about show car looks, but it can be fun.

Last edited by pologreen1; Dec 20, 2017 at 01:33 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 01:49 PM
  #13  
aklim's Avatar
aklim
Team Owner
Active Streak: 60 Days
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 28,502
Likes: 3,302
From: Hartford WI
Default

Originally Posted by pologreen1
Or stay around 400hp and your trans might last a little while, but if you go 450-500 things start acting different.
LPE rated their motor for 430 HP. I only had the AFR heads and intakes were NOT ported so conservatively, maybe 400. Before I left Decatur, Lingenfelter personally assured me the trans wouldn't live for a year even when it was freshly rebuilt. 9 months with me doing the "Granny Driving" thing. FYI.

IDK which is better. Drive the old trans till it breaks with that amount of power or just toss it today and get it rebuilt while the motor is out.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 02:05 PM
  #14  
pologreen1's Avatar
pologreen1
Team Owner
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 20,974
Likes: 261
Default

Originally Posted by aklim
LPE rated their motor for 430 HP. I only had the AFR heads and intakes were NOT ported so conservatively, maybe 400. Before I left Decatur, Lingenfelter personally assured me the trans wouldn't live for a year even when it was freshly rebuilt. 9 months with me doing the "Granny Driving" thing. FYI.

IDK which is better. Drive the old trans till it breaks with that amount of power or just toss it today and get it rebuilt while the motor is out.
Comes down to money. If the motor is out and a build is happening I am always going to upgrade.

My trans is built to handle like 750+ so just barely enough for my motor, but now I can 't spray the 500shot it will take or boost it with out knowing the trans sill leave me stranded.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 06:34 PM
  #15  
Mike Holmen's Avatar
Mike Holmen
Burning Brakes
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 762
Likes: 94
From: Airdrie Alberta
Default

My vote is for the new LT4 engine and Tremec transmission. Wow would that be a fun car, post pictures.

http://www.chevrolet.com/performance...s/lt4-wet-sump

I bet if you tweak the engine in places there a 1000HP capable engine, thats streetable. Lots of tweaked C6 LS9 making big power on youtube.

Its crazy whats awesome these days. Let us know what you pick?

I'm hoping santa gives me a LS3 engine for Christmas.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 07:36 PM
  #16  
Mr. Peabody's Avatar
Mr. Peabody
Le Mans Master
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 7,706
Likes: 485
From: Everett WA
C4 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) 2019
Default

Originally Posted by midlifecrisis1979


15k budget and likes newer tech? I'd be all over this!


Well I would agree BUT ... in addition to the $15K for the engine & trans how much (ball park) is a shop (who will stand by their work) going to charge to take the old engine & trans out and then turnkey install this new one?

Wait one.... are you going to need a newer exhaust system than is currently on the 1990? Radiator hoses same length as the old engine?

Not all of us that own corvettes are mechanics. Some of us have to depend on professional installation, particularly if we want to drive "Briskly" after the install.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 08:50 PM
  #17  
midlifecrisis1979's Avatar
midlifecrisis1979
Racer
 
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 313
Likes: 20
Default

Originally Posted by Mr. Peabody
Well I would agree BUT ... in addition to the $15K for the engine & trans how much (ball park) is a shop (who will stand by their work) going to charge to take the old engine & trans out and then turnkey install this new one?

Wait one.... are you going to need a newer exhaust system than is currently on the 1990? Radiator hoses same length as the old engine?

Not all of us that own corvettes are mechanics. Some of us have to depend on professional installation, particularly if we want to drive "Briskly" after the install.
True, they do have a 500 dollar rebate going now but that's still a lotta coin if you have to pay for the install. I haven't purchased one and wonder if they come off of MSRP on theses units

? That would be a sweet machine with this drive train...........
This one a little bit cheaper.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To What engine

Old Dec 20, 2017 | 08:54 PM
  #18  
aklim's Avatar
aklim
Team Owner
Active Streak: 60 Days
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 28,502
Likes: 3,302
From: Hartford WI
Default

Originally Posted by pologreen1
Comes down to money. If the motor is out and a build is happening I am always going to upgrade.

My trans is built to handle like 750+ so just barely enough for my motor, but now I can 't spray the 500shot it will take or boost it with out knowing the trans sill leave me stranded.
You're right about that. I'd sit the car for another summer if it meant I could do it while it is out but that's me.

So? That is why we have Uber.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 08:56 PM
  #19  
ChumpVette's Avatar
ChumpVette
Safety Car
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 4,564
Likes: 1,677
Default

Originally Posted by midlifecrisis1979


15k budget and likes newer tech? I'd be all over this!
That would be nuts.


Just buy a 350 crate motor and let the wife cruise around and be happy. She doesn't need 500 hp to go the grocery store.
Reply
Old Dec 20, 2017 | 09:00 PM
  #20  
aklim's Avatar
aklim
Team Owner
Active Streak: 60 Days
Community Builder
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 28,502
Likes: 3,302
From: Hartford WI
Default

Originally Posted by ChumpVette
That would be nuts.


Just buy a 350 crate motor and let the wife cruise around and be happy. She doesn't need 500 hp to go the grocery store.
No, YOU are nuts. You don't bill this as a "my" car thing. This is an "our car" thing which makes the bill easier to swallow. My wife doesn't need 500HP to go to the grocery store but WE need it. It is OUR car although I drive it mostly and she sits in it. So if I brought a hottie home to play with, she will be "OUR" plaything and I'd be willing to share. See how that works? Don't sound selfish. Share. Especially the bill.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:39 AM.

story-0
2027 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 First Look: Everything You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Is the 2027 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 the best Silverado yet?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-16 08:01:12


VIEW MORE
story-1
5 Best & 5 Worst Corvette Daily Drivers

Slideshow: 5 best and 5 worst Corvette daily drivers

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 10:32:13


VIEW MORE
story-2
The Headlights of Every Corvette Generation Explained

Slideshow: The headlights of every Corvette generation explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 10:17:14


VIEW MORE
story-3
5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 most overrated Corvette track packages ever.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:46:45


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

Slideshow: Every 2027 Corvette engine explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:16:31


VIEW MORE
story-5
Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

Slideshow: A Jaguar designer's personal project imagines what a modern front-engined Corvette might look like if Chevrolet revisited the golden age of the Stingray.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-08 19:53:43


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE