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Melting Slicks
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,384
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From: Leland , North Carolina
Climate change is a hoax . I can tell someone like Trump probably crapped his pants when certain things were revealed to him if they were. Starting to question that. No outsiders allowed.
You see all these bozos on the left acting stupid? You have the same in the scientific arena .And every category you can think of . They run everything and lie.lie lie....
Instructor
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 141
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From: Iowa
How many ice ages has the planet had??? And what did the planet do in between them? It froze.....then over millions of years it got warmer......then froze, then over millions of years got warmer, then froze....you get the picture. (Meteor strikes, volcanic eruptions, etc all contributed) All of the glaciers have been melting since the last ice age....regardless of what humans are doing or not doing. All of the resources that humans have, came from the earth. I agree that we aren't helping matters, either, but the earth has been warming up on it's own long before we had any contribution at all....
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Le Mans Master
Joined: May 2005
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From: Central Maryland
The other problem with the whole issues is even if we in the US totally stopped emitting carbon, we would still be screwed because all the 3rd world thinaks it's their right to pollute to grow.
Literally, that's what their argument t was during the Paris Accords. They committed to basically nothing because they felt that being at all clean would put financial burden on them, and that the US should give them money to offset it.
The really unfortunate part is, reality is, there isnt a solution to this that allows for population growth, or likely even population to remain steady. There are too many of us for the planet to support with equilibrium. That's not a solution that any real technology can solve.
Literally, that's what their argument t was during the Paris Accords. They committed to basically nothing because they felt that being at all clean would put financial burden on them, and that the US should give them money to offset it.
The really unfortunate part is, reality is, there isnt a solution to this that allows for population growth, or likely even population to remain steady. There are too many of us for the planet to support with equilibrium. That's not a solution that any real technology can solve.
As more of the third world ramps up economically and technologically, and as population continues to expand, energy consumption will continue to escalate. That seems inevitable, and there's no free lunch with respect to any aspect of energy, industry, agriculture, waste management, etc. Some choices are much worse than others, but none eliminate all adverse consequences.
Live well,
SJW
Team Owner
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 21,543
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From: Park City Utah
Hey you know what? Me too. I got ALL the data, papers, studies, facts...everything needed to prove _____________...whatever. It's all down in my basement. I can prove you wrong, right now. Buuuuut, no one is supposed to know about it (shroud it in mystery!). And It's too much work for me to go down stairs and get it. Yeah...I'm just going to act aloof and right...that should convince everyone.
Here is the funniest thing of all; c3 (and others, no doubt) think I'm a climate change pusher.
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From: Pittsburgh
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One volcano eruption emits more emissions than all the cars since they were invented. Global warming was a hoax so they had to change it to "climate change" which is cyclical. We have caught NASA fudging temperature stats since tracking began. Trust me it's not pollution affecting the weather.
Something much bigger is happening. Much concern over the magnetic pole moving rapidly due east, measurable earth wobble and moon phases are out of wack. No one is paying attention except for a few....
Something much bigger is happening. Much concern over the magnetic pole moving rapidly due east, measurable earth wobble and moon phases are out of wack. No one is paying attention except for a few....
Racer
Joined: Sep 2008
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Sooner or later we will have to abandon oil-based fuels either way. Doesn't help much with regards to climate change though if we don't stop using coal to get electricity. We need more nuclear power plants as well as alternative sources of electricity and heating such as wind turbines and solar panels for that.
Also, populations need to be reduced. But that will eventually sort itself out as resources get stretched thin.
Also, populations need to be reduced. But that will eventually sort itself out as resources get stretched thin.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,272
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From: Darien, IL
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Its same as “ we need to register them “ b.s. It is the same technique that Hitler used. Registry then confiscation. They WILL take them once they get their stupid law passed. They just need to get their claws into something then they that that inch and go the mile. Death by a thousand cuts. They play the long game and no one is the wiser EXCEPT those with above room temperature I.Q.’s. We see them coming a mile away.
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Melting Slicks
Joined: May 2018
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From: Question Government
Oh Dear...
Oh Noooooo!... Someone is proposing an idea to keep the air we breathe clean! Well... better slam them with harsh partisan names, dip them in crude oil, and throw coal at them until they promise to stop trying to help our environment
Team Owner
Joined: Dec 2007
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The "rulers" forget.... Mother Nature and her forces of nature rules ALL.
See Historical data for evidence. None of it matters. This place could fart us all out and we would never know.
However, I wonder how much I could get for mine.... Do you get more money for the more smelly, noisy, smokey, shaky, and obnoxious it is?
See Historical data for evidence. None of it matters. This place could fart us all out and we would never know.
However, I wonder how much I could get for mine.... Do you get more money for the more smelly, noisy, smokey, shaky, and obnoxious it is?
Team Owner
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These same bozos might have ties to the ROCKETS they send DIRECTLY through our so called atmosphere and ozone and while piercing it physically, the rocket is burning off a lava temps.
Yep, damn lanmowers and cars.... In the mean time. Chine and India. lol
The fake man drawn lines don't matter, this is one big globe and it does what it wants. I say mock any idiot dumb enough to spout these ideas and or make them pay out of their own pocket more so and see were these ideas go or get. Better yet STONE them for the consequences.
The tax base is an unlimited tap of opportunity. The game is to get the most money... King of the hill they used to say.
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Melting Slicks
Joined: May 2018
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From: Question Government
Pologreen... Of course Mother Nature has the final word. Humans have screwed up all the "natural balance" but we can slow down our demise.
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Drifting
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,275
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From: Utah
So i had a neighbor's 32 year old man child vandalize my vette.
it took me a while to figure out who, but long story short... brain damage + pepboys former employee + sand in my fluids, one of those was my brake fluid...
fast forward a little bit, and i had the brain damaged individual go off at me for my 3 boats and my new rv in my backyard...
so while his head was spinning around i managed to get him to admit that he put fkd with my car.
one of his reasons why i deserved it?
"my exhaust is destroying the asphalt"
some other liberal bs mixes in his many ramblings...
cops called, dash cam + security cameras ftw...
that man child is a fine example of what a liberals mindset is...
i wear a gun when i go into my backyard now.
And I'm working stuff out with his dad...
Soon I'll give him the $400 bill for my master cylinder and all of the fluids i had to flush out.
liberals... they wish to kill us.
it took me a while to figure out who, but long story short... brain damage + pepboys former employee + sand in my fluids, one of those was my brake fluid...
fast forward a little bit, and i had the brain damaged individual go off at me for my 3 boats and my new rv in my backyard...
so while his head was spinning around i managed to get him to admit that he put fkd with my car.
one of his reasons why i deserved it?
"my exhaust is destroying the asphalt"
some other liberal bs mixes in his many ramblings...
cops called, dash cam + security cameras ftw...
that man child is a fine example of what a liberals mindset is...
i wear a gun when i go into my backyard now.
And I'm working stuff out with his dad...
Soon I'll give him the $400 bill for my master cylinder and all of the fluids i had to flush out.
liberals... they wish to kill us.
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Safety Car
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From: N.E. Ohio OH
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So i had a neighbor's 32 year old man child vandalize my vette.
Melting Slicks
Joined: May 2018
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From: Question Government
Gibble's crazy neighbor is an isolated incident and doesn't represent all "non republicans" ... Now, let's deal with the mental illness issue in Utah and those that hate any gas burning vehicles.
Race Director
Joined: Oct 2012
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From: Melbourne, FL
The real issue is this belief that by changing our fuel source we will solve it. Humans or not, the climate will change on it's own. In pre industrial times, look at how many cities were destroyed and sunk into the sea, were overtaken by desert or jungle, etc. Look at all the aquatic creature fossils that we find in the plains of the US.
The planet is, and always has been, changing in climate. It's just our pathetic short lifespans that have had us believe otherwise.
I will say this again, until everyone hears it and understands it. Climate change is a real.problem, and the solution is being able to ADAPT to the change, not wanting our time, money, and intellect on preventing. People saying otherwise likely have a financial interest in you believing them.
The planet is, and always has been, changing in climate. It's just our pathetic short lifespans that have had us believe otherwise.
I will say this again, until everyone hears it and understands it. Climate change is a real.problem, and the solution is being able to ADAPT to the change, not wanting our time, money, and intellect on preventing. People saying otherwise likely have a financial interest in you believing them.
Safety Car
Joined: Apr 2016
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From: N.E. Ohio OH
Finalist 2020 C4 of the Year - Modified
there are efforts that recognize the current deficiencies of a totally EV. such as:
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/hydroge...eamliner-train
there are some smart people after all
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/hydroge...eamliner-train
there are some smart people after all
Racer
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 422
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From: PA
Cow Farts pollute more than classic cars.
But this is expected from Libtards like Chucky. The US, after 60 or more years of relying on Arab oil is now a net exporter of energy, no thanks to Libtards like Chucky. Liberals say "99% of climate scientists agree with human caused climate change". Well throughout human history science has been wrong, a lot. 99% of scientists said the sun revolved around the earth, 99% of scientists said the earth was flat, 99% of scientists said the atom was the smallest atomic particle, 99% of scientists said polio was wiped off the planet, I could go on. The only fact here worth noting is the planet has undergone much colder periods than "now" and much warmer periods than "now", long before apes were dragging their knuckles on the ground.
But this is expected from Libtards like Chucky. The US, after 60 or more years of relying on Arab oil is now a net exporter of energy, no thanks to Libtards like Chucky. Liberals say "99% of climate scientists agree with human caused climate change". Well throughout human history science has been wrong, a lot. 99% of scientists said the sun revolved around the earth, 99% of scientists said the earth was flat, 99% of scientists said the atom was the smallest atomic particle, 99% of scientists said polio was wiped off the planet, I could go on. The only fact here worth noting is the planet has undergone much colder periods than "now" and much warmer periods than "now", long before apes were dragging their knuckles on the ground.