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Picking one based on "what makes sense" or stats doesnt always work. Its what you like.,
These arent practical period its all about how you feel when youre in it. Like the C4 for what it is, hard to beat for the money.
Ill take aging C4 electronics over C5 any day. Ride and interior in the C5 is nicer, lx is great and all but havent driven one that really called my name..even a TT
Just didnt have enough character. If it doesnt feel like its going to break down its not for me. Choices in women arent any different.
Not sure about an inanimate object talking to you but they don't talk to me. They just are. As to women, I could also say, for instance, "My wife jane is someone I would like to live with although she is 5'6 and 250 lbs with a cups over Suzy who is 5'8, 120 lbs with a 38C rack". Also, Suzy has a way better physical shape than Jane.". So if you are asking me whose body I think is better, it would be Suzy.
My guess is that if we really went objective, I can't see anything that will give the C4 and edge over the C5. When you go subjective, it becomes a question of what you like being made the best.
My guess is that if we really went objective, I can't see anything that will give the C4 and edge over the C5. When you go subjective, it becomes a question of what you like being made the best.
That goes for every new version of every new car 99% of the time. The c3 has no onjective edge over the c4. The c5 no objective edge over the C6. The 996 no objective edge over the 997. The whole point of the new car is its "better". If it's not better, why not just keep the old one?
There are a ha dful of times this isn't the case. The ctsv tonct5v for example, but that's because they decontented the v so they could make a top level above it.
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Originally Posted by FAUEE
That goes for every new version of every new car 99% of the time. The c3 has no onjective edge over the c4. The c5 no objective edge over the C6. The 996 no objective edge over the 997. The whole point of the new car is its "better". If it's not better, why not just keep the old one?
There are a ha dful of times this isn't the case. The ctsv tonct5v for example, but that's because they decontented the v so they could make a top level above it.
I would not say every new model is "Better" than the previous, just "Different" and or "fresher" '67 to '68 as example. My fathers '98 vert is a very comfortable, fast and fun but does not have the classic car feel if the '90 and older C4's
I would not say every new model is "Better" than the previous, just "Different" and or "fresher" '67 to '68 as example. My fathers '98 vert is a very comfortable, fast and fun but does not have the classic car feel if the '90 and older C4's
Are you sure the "classic feel" things ended with the C4? Could the C5 or C6 owners argue the same point with the C7 or C8 owners? How about C3, C2 or C1? That is almost like asking "What is a pervert?". Depends on where you are drawing the line.
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Originally Posted by aklim
Are you sure the "classic feel" things ended with the C4? Could the C5 or C6 owners argue the same point with the C7 or C8 owners? How about C3, C2 or C1? That is almost like asking "What is a pervert?". Depends on where you are drawing the line.
In our family we have '58 fuelie, '65 327 roadster, '67 427 4 spd roadster, '69 427 4 spd roadster, '74 coupe, '84 coupe, '98 roadster, and '13 427 roadster. I guess the 58 thru 74 seem more classic, the 84 more slot car / toyish, and the '98 and '13 very plush and fast.
There's a clear line between a 96 and a 97. The steering feel is massively different. In the 96, you've got heavy and analog steering feel. In the 97, it's overboosted, super light, and very little feel.
Inthink that's what most people will say about drawing the line. I could see a day when people say the line is when stuff gets speed depending variable steering, but I think right now, most compare heavy direct steering to light overboosted steering.
In our family we have '58 fuelie, '65 327 roadster, '67 427 4 spd roadster, '69 427 4 spd roadster, '74 coupe, '84 coupe, '98 roadster, and '13 427 roadster. I guess the 58 thru 74 seem more classic, the 84 more slot car / toyish, and the '98 and '13 very plush and fast.
I talked to a company that produced books of music for DJ use. They told me that they have found that while many individuals say that they like everything but their favorite seems to be what was playing around their high school graduation time, plus or minus 10 years
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Originally Posted by aklim
I talked to a company that produced books of music for DJ use. They told me that they have found that while many individuals say that they like everything but their favorite seems to be what was playing around their high school graduation time, plus or minus 10 years
As someone who presently owns C4s, a C5Z and a C6Z, have for almost 19 years, here is my rating for the VETTE discussion. Based on looks
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I don’t own a C4Z, wish I did, maybe someday. My C4 gets far more compliments than my C5Z and I LOVE the FRC body shape. All my cars have “tasteful” mods, including suspension/wheels/tint/paint upkeep so taking care of the ride has to factor into the discussion, I’ve seen some trashed C5s and pummeled C4s as well so all things being equal. All my thoughts above are on looks solely, both my C4s and C5Z are as reliable as the other, would probably trust the C4 LT1 on a longer road trip than my C5Z. In the past I e driven my 87 from Seattle to Texas, to Cali in a month, very comfy in the sport seats. Power just takes effort and cash so no argument on stock power levels, it’s irrelevant but the C5Z is pretty strong. Handling, ehh I’m not running slaloms or a time attack on the way to work, if I did the C5Z again wins.
Im selling a car soon...the C5Z has drawn the short end, keeping the C4/C6Z
id have a supercharged alum ls3 if i could choose, im just afraid i’ll lose a season with my car down as i fabricate brackets and re-buy expensive exhaust pieces i already have.
i believe you can get in plenty of trouble with either setup
Even a mild cam heads LS3 in a C4 M6 would be a ton of fun!
Even a mild cam heads LS3 in a C4 M6 would be a ton of fun!
Considered that but to get an evaluation of the job, I checked with several speed shops with a 4L60E. They said that to get the motor running, it would be expensive and I'd better be in love with the car and be willing to be way upside down on it. To get all systems functioning like stock, they would NOT be able to quote a price other than the hourly rate and stop when I ran out of money or when they were done, whichever came first.
Considered that but to get an evaluation of the job, I checked with several speed shops with a 4L60E. They said that to get the motor running, it would be expensive and I'd better be in love with the car and be willing to be way upside down on it. To get all systems functioning like stock, they would NOT be able to quote a price other than the hourly rate and stop when I ran out of money or when they were done, whichever came first.
That's pretty much how every engine swap into all but the most basic vehicles goes though.
You want a fuel range? That's pricey. Want a lot of factory digital displays? Adds cost. If you're fine with just a few basic gauges, that's cheap. It's all the extras that gets expensive. Hence it being cheaper to swap an ls into a c3 than a c4. Less stuff to integrate, you just throw some new gauges in and call it a day.
Have a 96 LT4 manual coupe and a 98 base auto vert. Not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison, but close enough. Personally I would take my C4 over my C5. The C4 will tire you out on a long drive, but she just feels so much like a raw sports car that you actually have to drive. The C5 feels more like a touring than sports car to me. I know the auto/manual difference, but I have driven manual C5s and that would not change my mind.
Now, for cruising with the wife, a multi-hour drive, or an early morning drive to work with a cup of coffee...it’s my C5 all day long. The auto trans and much smoother ride make the difference for that in my C5.
That's pretty much how every engine swap into all but the most basic vehicles goes though.
You want a fuel range? That's pricey. Want a lot of factory digital displays? Adds cost. If you're fine with just a few basic gauges, that's cheap. It's all the extras that gets expensive. Hence it being cheaper to swap an ls into a c3 than a c4. Less stuff to integrate, you just throw some new gauges in and call it a day.
I am kinda fussy on that sort of thing. I don't like dead switches in my cars and want everything working. But even if I didn't, an LS motor and 4L60E with an ECM would be more than the car itself was worth. Much easier and cheaper to get a car that already came with an LS than to shoehorn one in even if I was (which I am not) willing to put up with non functioning items. Besides, I'm not a fan of old stuff and I do so LOVE the gadgets.
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