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Old Oct 10, 2021 | 10:04 PM
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So i have a 94 c4 lt1 i had an issue with my fuel pump fixed it drove the car to cali no problem. Sometimes it just dies on me. Thought it was fuel related. Just recently changed fuel filter and another brand new fuel pump, car started fine but then died. Checked rhe pressure and it barely dribblea out. How do i fix the pressure issue and why won't the car start fully now or stay running ? Anyone know anything similar or how yo fix it. I have a videl of pervious fuel pump nose that i recently fixed are now just running into the problem of not starting or stay running
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So i have a 94 c4 lt1 i had an issue with my fuel pump fixed it drove the car to cali no problem. Sometimes it just dies on me. Thought it was fuel related. Just recently changed fuel filter and another brand new fuel pump, car started fine but then died. Checked rhe pressure and it barely dribblea out. How do i fix the pressure issue and why won't the car start fully now or stay running ? Anyone know anything similar or how yo fix it. I have a videl of pervious fuel pump nose that i recently fixed are now just running into the problem of not starting or stay running
It sounds like a fuel pressure issue. The pressure for the LT1 (according to my "Corvette Fuel Injection" by Probst) is steady 41# across the RPM range. And, for what it is worth, I have experienced a bad out-of-the-box fuel pump on my ZR-1; put the shine on the statistics axiom: "Infant Mortality" is the #1 failure mode for any new component first put into service."

And, a (OBD-I) scanner would be an excellent tool to have with these cars. Excellent tool!
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It sounds like a fuel pressure issue. The pressure for the LT1 (according to my "Corvette Fuel Injection" by Probst) is steady 41# across the RPM range. And, for what it is worth, I have experienced a bad out-of-the-box fuel pump on my ZR-1; put the shine on the statistics axiom: "Infant Mortality" is the #1 failure mode for any new component first put into service."

And, a (OBD-I) scanner would be an excellent tool to have with these cars. Excellent tool!

I dont know how to adjust the pressure. It is supposed to be 40psi but unsure what randomly caused the pressure to drop and how i go about fixing that
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Cassie, Paul is basically telling you your brand new fuel may have been bad right out of the box. And he's right - it may be. You need to do at least two things: get a fuel pressure gauge and find out what the pressure really is on your fuel rail, and listen to make sure the pump is even running at all when you first turn the key to "run" (before you crank the starter). You don't adjust fuel pressure on these cars: they have a pressure regulator that maintains the proper pressure...or at least it's supposed to. I don't know if they have failure mode that causes loss of nearly all fuel pressure, but maybe they do. If your pump is working and your regulator is good, there's not much else that could cause low pressure.
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Cassie, Paul is basically telling you your brand new fuel may have been bad right out of the box. And he's right - it may be. You need to do at least two things: get a fuel pressure gauge and find out what the pressure really is on your fuel rail, and listen to make sure the pump is even running at all when you first turn the key to "run" (before you crank the starter). You don't adjust fuel pressure on these cars: they have a pressure regulator that maintains the proper pressure...or at least it's supposed to. I don't know if they have failure mode that causes loss of nearly all fuel pressure, but maybe they do. If your pump is working and your regulator is good, there's not much else that could cause low pressure.
I dont think the pump is bad. I have a video of the pump i put on 3 months ago it was definitely bad when i got it so i just changed it again the only issue i have now is the pressure causing the car to not start
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Leaky Injectors? Failed FPR?
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okay so i replaced now the fuel pump and filter, pressure is good at 40 psi, and cleaned my ICM yesterday which helped so today I replaced it and no nothing. still will not stay running, when it dies the battery light comes on and it dies gently(if thats a thing), starts back up right after and my alternator is good so now im out of ideas on what could be wrong. HELP
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What did you do with the ICM?

FP with key to On position stays at 40-45psi, you turn it over, and does that hold level or not?
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If the fuel pressure is good and you continue to have it cutting out, you might want to diagnose the ignition system, specifically the Optispark
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You might want to check the wiring to the Fuel Pump.

The newest C4 is now 25 years old - wiring can be an issue on any car - but it gets more likely as the car gets older. You need to know what the fuel pressure is as the car "dies" - that'll help you diagnose what the next steps are.
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What did you do with the ICM?

FP with key to On position stays at 40-45psi, you turn it over, and does that hold level or not?
Replaced it so put on a new one & yes pressure holds at 40-43psi but now the car wont start it cranks but doesn't turn over
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IF it's cranking, it's turning over....your car is not firing.

When it won't start, what's missing. Spark or fuel? Probably spark, but you need to check.
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Im not sure whats missing i have spark and fuel...
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If the engine does not catch and start, you do not have spark and fuel. You are losing one or the other.

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Originally Posted by vader86
If the engine does not catch and start, you do not have spark and fuel. You are losing one or the other.
so how do i find out which it is
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Originally Posted by cassiecuff
Im not sure whats missing i have spark and fuel...
Not if it's not starting.

Are you telling us that you checked for spark, while the symptom was occurring...and you had spark at that point?

And you have checked for fuel pressure, while the symptom was occurring, and you had fuel pressure at that point?

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Not if it's not starting.

Are you telling us that you checked for spark, while the symptom was occurring...and you had spark at that point?

And you have checked for fuel pressure, while the symptom was occurring, and you had fuel pressure at that point?
yes i got spark when cranking and checked pressure and it was fine as well. Before changing the icm it would die and it started fine with the new then died and now wont start at all or if it does it takes forever and will eventually die again and thats when its sitting
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Well...that's not too clear. You checked pressure while it also would not start?

If you changed the ICM and now it won't start, I think that is a pretty good clue that you should change the ICM back. Put the old one back in. It's also a clue that it's not starting, b/c of lack of....spark, likely.

When it won't start, will it start on ether?
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
Well...that's not too clear. You checked pressure while it also would not start?

If you changed the ICM and now it won't start, I think that is a pretty good clue that you should change the ICM back. Put the old one back in. It's also a clue that it's not starting, b/c of lack of....spark, likely.

When it won't start, will it start on ether?
It would start with the old and started up right after i put the new one on and it if course shut off and wouldn't start back up so i did put the old one back one and still wont start
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What is the fuel pressure, while it won't start?
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