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Nothing like coming to Corvette Forum to read an article trashing a Corvette written buy a guy who clearly doesn’t have much first hand knowledge about which he is writing. Sad
Yeah, their performance numbers are constantly being compared to cars of today but it took many years for the majority of newer cars to catch up. I still appreciate them as classics though.
Yeah, their performance numbers are constantly being compared to cars of today but it took many years for the majority of newer cars to catch up. I still appreciate them as classics though.
The late C3 does absolutely nothing better than the 84
OK In the spirit of the Holidays. . I nonetheless am tempted to take Mr. Mark Webb off of my HOLIDAY card list.
Perhaps this is the latest version of SHOCK "journalism" . .
Start with a provocative headline and then go downhill from there !!! NICE !!!
I am guessing that Mr. Webb has little experience in understanding or assessing the well documented enhancements that CAN be made to the Cross Fire engines. If one CHOSES to do so !
So . . here is my second response to the article by Mr. Mark Webb.
I would like to challenge Mr. Mark Webb to participate in this Forum and share with us in further detail, his experience with the 1984 C4. Additionally, perhaps we could receive some valuable information on how to FIX the 1984 C4. DETAILED !!!
The issues addressed in his article and his proposed "fixes" were, frankly, substantially lacking in detail, in my view. Replacing the Cross Fire system is a rather involved process but well documented here on CF as well as other thoughtful publications. His description of the "challenges" to this conversion were quite superfluous, at best. There are many C4 owners who have undertaken this project with great success, and I am sure these owners are VERY satisfied with their 1984 Corvette.
I would wager that there are very few owners on this Forum who would acknowledge that they are the owner and the custodians of the WORST Corvette EVER !!! EVER !!! Really ???
people that have no mechanical knowledge always say the 84 corvette is the worse vette.. for being 1984 it was a very impressive car with the tech and performance it put out with for being a mid 80's car.. and then we got the ones saying the 80-82 vette were also bad, dont see a dang thing wrong with them, now the 1975 vette with the start of emissions standards and having 165hp kinda lame, but for the time and the available tech and emission standards the 1984 corvette was pretty awesome and got better each year after, then we get the ones that say the CFI is a nightmare to work on, lol no its such a easy system to work on and repair as i have worked on quite a few CFI systems in the 82-84 years, also enjoyed how easy they was to work on as with the TBI systems in the K1500 trucks. but if u have no mechanical knowledge then yeah i can see CFI being "hard" to work on and repair
Somewhen, somewhere, when we're all zooming around in anti-grav land speeders and later g is a forgotten concept, it's going to be interesting to go to the archives and see what's been written about the 1984 Corvette. While we wouldn't necessarily expect it to stick out of the surrounding automotive landscape as one of the great engineering mileposts of its time, we would expect it to reflect deference as one of the best of its breed for the times. Perhaps even the best. Almost unquestionably the best, if purchase price is a consideration.
After all, that's what we're really talking about here. The best car for the money in a given year. We're not talking perfection: The Corvette's video arcade instrumentation, though exceptionally comprehensive, wins a few aesthetic points around here, and is difficult to read when it's bathed in direct sunlight. The 4-speed manual with automatic overdrive, though improved by the addition of the manual lockout feature, would be even more improved if it was a regular 5-speed such as the one that graces the Porsche 928. The car is far from light, weighing only a couple hundred pounds less than its pudgy predecessor.
Just odd for it to be a “NEWS” story on Corvette Forum at least to me anyways.
I agree that it is odd to find it here. But to be honest, it doesn't surprise me. There has been negative comments about the C4 for many years on this forum. It is probably better now than it was back 15-20 years ago. But, it still shows up every once in a while.
I wouldn't want an 84. 85-91, with a preference to the 88+ cars, or the 90-95 ZR-1.
If I found a cheap 84, I would drive it, but would have to be a 4+3. At least there is great documentation for every possible issue with the CF, so it would be easy-ish to keep running. Assuming you can get parts, because "supply chain"
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Our 84 z51 w/4+3 is a blast from the past. I still cannot believe all the ground breaking technology when it came out. Might not ever be known for speed, but @ the time it was the benchmark.
yes there are better models of Corvette, thats what keeps people buying them, But to call them the worst, give me a break
People tend to forget the times. Some quick points:
- The Corvette engineering team acceleration target for the 84 Corvette to match the 1963 300HP option.
- The 205HP engine was more powerful than more than 2/3 of the C3s produced.
- No manual transmission was available since the 1981 Model year, and that with a weaker V8.
The 84 was universally viewed as a step in the right direction after the later C3s which were slow, heavy, and had poor reliability and durability.