Hey mang, don be fun'in Rummy !!!!


[Modified by need-for-speed, 9:30 PM 6/27/2004]

 

Well I aint miss cleo and I DO NOT believe in snake oil products that claim to restore life to an already worn out engine BUT I had an 86 S-10 blazer with a lil' 2.8 litre V-6 That has a reputation for being desposable at 100k miles and I bought it new and soon after the break in period I treated it with Slick 50 to protect it from wear and I put 250k miles on that blazer before I sold it and the guy who bought it from me is still running around town in it and I see it and just shake my head. I did take good care of it but I also had like 800 lbs. of trophy winning competition "crank it up" stereo equipment W/multi-amps and heavy large carpeted wooden speaker enclosures in it. Plus I pulled a boat on a regular basis. So, you tell me, I dont know for sure, maybe that blazer was just a "cherry", I dunno, But what I do know is that I was sold on Slick 50 and have used it every since..And every vehicle I've used it on have all kept very clean oil..just like my 90 vette W/ 77k..when I change the oil every 3k the oil still looks clean like honey. But I think it can only help prevent wear if applied to a fairly new motor after break in..not repair it. My 18 yr old sons lil' 4 banger pick up that I got him at age 16 now has 160k miles and is the same way. I'm not trying to be an advertisement here but I think slick 50 has some preventitive value.


[Modified by skateparkdave, 9:31 PM 6/28/2004]

 

I wouldn't put slick 50 in my lawnmower.

But hey thats me, opinions are like noses, everyone has one.



[Modified by xlr8nflorida, 1:13 AM 6/28/2004]

 

sure the gauge was working? 4 months with no oil pressure...hmmm[/QUOTE]


no, i'm not sure the gauge was working. but the lifters were tapping like crazy! i didn't drive it unless i had to, either. i only paid a couple of hundred dollars for it to begin with and didn't really care if it locked up or not.

so anyways, that's my story (take it for what it's worth). all i know is that i had zero oil pressure on the gauge, and the van never quit running after close to 4 months


randy

 

Whatever! Maybe if you did it would last a few more years. Like I said I'm not trying to be an advertisement..those have been my expeiriences.I could care less if slick 50 goes outta business tommorrow..guess it was all coincedental..but I doubt it

 

I have stated this before and was instantly tore a new one by people, but slick 50 works, ive seen it in action on several diferent occasions. And restore does work, doesnt hurt the engine, but then again trying to suade people is like trying to stop a river with a broom.

 

Right Racer. I will be the first to admit that oil additivies only serve to ease the transfer of money from your pocket to somebody elses. Restore worked for me and I'll leave it at that.

 

Whatever! Maybe if you did it would last a few more years.

My lawnmower is the old type that you undo the top and you wind it in a circular direction and then you push a lever forward to release the coil.
I'm pretty sure its 70's style. Yes, sometimes I need alittle ether to start her but no slick 50 or restore in my mower

 

Call meah now for ya free readin! :p:

 

lawnmowers have engines now??

 

Dave,
Chances are, your Blazer would have run just as many miles with regular oil changes. Truth is, no one will ever know. That's why I used my above example:

.... add Slick 50 to that list.

Truth is, car enthusiasts love the concept of spending a little extra $ on TLC products. Do they really know if they work? Who knows. It's kinda like selling fishing lures that are designed to catch fisherman, not fish.

Our surveyor puts 350,000 miles on his Suburbans. He doesn't use Slick 50. A co-worker just traded his 99 A4 Corvette on a Hummer. It had 190,000 miles and still ran great (he drove it to work every day, he lives 70 miles from the office). He never used ANY oil or fuel additives and had his oil changed when the DIC told him, which on C5's is around 10,000 miles, based on load conditions. This C5 still had the original tranny fluid, diff fluid, and coolant in it. Mustbampegs description of noisy lifters supports his story. However, in most of these cases, I believe the credit should go to the people that designed and built these motors and not to the Snake Oil salesman. These motors will last that long w/ regular oil changes. But as I state in my example above, when someone uses that miracle in a bottle, it's hard to convince them that they would have done just as well without it.

 

You may have a point. Who knows for sure? And like I said, I dont put much or any value in stuff that claims to restore life to an already worn out engine. But, it just seems to me that if something like PTFE is very slippery and has a viscosity that doesn't break down and reduces friction than it's not rocket science to assume that less friction = less wear.
You know, back in the day, lots off people scoffed at using refined crude oil in a combustion engine for lubrication back when all steam engines needed was water..they burned up lots of steel in the process of accepting the change. Now as recently as the sixtys and seventys people turned their noses up at synthetic oils and said they didn't or wouldn't ever replace refined crude. Then guess what?..Corvette was one of the first cars who's engineers reccomended the use of synthetic oil as the mainstay in owners manuals..imagine that. People laughed at Ben Franklin when he flew that kite with the key and said he would harness lightning..historys list goes on and on so why should this be any different.

I've used it and it didn't hurt anything and it may or may not have helped anything but if it helped, heck it was only $12 so so-what? I burn more than that everyday in fuel and tires just having fun. Who cares??


[Modified by skateparkdave, 9:36 PM 6/28/2004]

 

Yes, the ability of a product to restore excessive clearances is definitely hard to believe. As far as Teflon goes, I do believe it may be effective at reducing friction. But I believe that to work, it would have to be properly applied to the surfaces. I don't believe that suspending ground up particles in oil would work as a method of applying.

 

Again, history is so full of people who poo poo'd what they did not understand. So you believe it doesn't work and I believe it might help. At the cost of $12 or so if there's even a slight chance that it does help, then great, I'm glad I use it..didn't hurt anything thats for sure. But if it doesn't, big deal, I wont be eating at the soup kitchen because of it. Anyways, this thread bores me now I think we've all established where we stand and it's going nowhere so let drink that beer and move on.

 

Opinions are like noses every body has one.

Except Michael Jackson


[Modified by dndrsn, 4:41 AM 6/30/2004]

 

Mobil Website:

Can I use an engine “supplement” or engine oil treatment with Mobil

The use of an engine oil additive is not recommended, either by ExxonMobil or by virtually any vehicle manufacturer. In fact, it may void your new-car warranty.

Royal Purple:

Should I use an oil additive with Royal Purple®?

No. We strongly recommend against using any oil additives as do most automotive manufacturers. Engine oils are formulated with a fine balance of additives (anti-foam, corrosion inhibitors, anti-wear, detergent / dispersants, oxidation inhibitors) and more is not necessarily better. The use of an oil additive could upset the balance resulting in reduced performance.

Amsoil also recommends against additives.


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Slick 50 in $20M lawsuit, loses to FTC.
Blue Corral, the manufacturers of the Slick 50 engine oil additive, have been banned by the Federal Trade Commission from making claims about reduced engine wear, increased fuel economy and lower running temperatures in it's advertising in America. The Federal Commission found the company's claims of increased performance and reduced wear were unsubstantiated, and Blue Corral has agreed to pay upwards of $20M in damages to affected customers.

Keep spending your $12, oh by the way now its $18.

When you say it can't or didn't hurt anything, you obviously have not done your research on oils and additives.


In addition, recent new evidence has come to light that makes using almost any additive a game of Russian Roulette. Since the additive distributors do not list the ingredients contained within their products, you never know for sure just what you are putting in your engine.

Recent tests have shown that even some of the most inoffensive additives contain products which, though harmless in their initial state, convert to hydrofluoric acid when exposed to the temperatures inside a firing cylinder. This acid is formed as part of the exhaust gases, and though it is instantly expelled from your engine and seems to do it no harm, the gases collect inside your exhaust system and eat away at your mufflers from the inside out.




[Modified by xlr8nflorida, 12:57 AM 6/30/2004]

 

Well hell! I knew I was using it for some reason..now maybe my lawyer can get me a piece of that $20 million pie! 8===o I looked at Wal-Mart a few days ago and it was $12.99 so I should've been saying $13 but it aint $18. At least not here. But so what?? This is such a waste of our time. I think I'll go drive around in my 14 year old C4 and smoke some mustang or rice burners with my internally spotless old L98

 

Well I have to admit that I have never researched it on the net and I have to thank you guys for pushing me to do so.One thing I've never been is too proud to admit that I may be wrong. It appears that there are some disputable issues and although I have used slick 50 with great success I am now wondering if it wasn't all just because I took good care of the vehicles and changed the oil religiously. I have just read tons of info on the Whole FTC lawsuit plus other articles where people who used it swear it helped. One of the most interesting was a piece written on how todays Slick 50 is NOT the SAME quality stuff that was sold for like $45 a quart in the eightys that passed many federal studies and test and was found to actually do some good. That pisses me off because thats when I used it in my Blazer that lasted for ever and thats why I was so sold on it and continued to believe it was the same "good stuff" that I had used back then..It went on to tell how cost cuts and deceptive practices enabled Quaker state/blue coral to continiue to sell tons of new "cost cut" slick 50 that didn't pass the same test as before to consumers such as myself who gulibly believed that the price had come down and that it was still the tried and true and proven substance that they had used before hence the FTC lawsuit demanding that they remove the former claims and test results of "the past" from the new sucky formulas lables. They suck for doing this and I feel like a complete idiot for sticking with them and even a bigger idiot for blindly promoting it on here now without knowing about the changes.
I just want to thank you guys for shedding light..even though I thought xlr8nflorida was being a total douche for some of the smart a** comments about the old lawn mower.. now I see why and I'm glad now that you did because it caused me to do a little research and Slick 50 can kiss my butt goodbye. I guess, like they say "tough love hurts, but then helps and heals". I guess I needed some tough love to help me see the light. But hey, my oil does stay clean as new for 3k and the car runs like crazy but I guess I can only thank the fine engineers at Bowling Green Kentucky for that now. At least thats one thing that noone can dispute..that CORVETTES ARE THE SHIZZNIT!!


[Modified by skateparkdave, 2:33 AM 6/30/2004]

 

Iv'e used it in 11 old engine's it helped 7 alot... the other 4 were
not hurt ain't sellin' nothing just my knowlege

 

Additives after a time, will act like mud in your engine. Do yourself a favor,
don't use them. Try to fix the problem.