C4 Vs. General Lee
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C4 Vs. General Lee
My cousin Mike says that the Dukes 69' Charger General Lee is faster than the C4 LT1. I think hes crazy. The Dodge is heavier and that 440 cant beat the 300 LT1. The Vette is quicker off the line right?????
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The vette is quicker, but since the comparison is the General Lee, the vette is much more proned to scraping the bottom going down the dirt roads and pastures. Also, I doubt Cooter could work on the LT1, (also the jumping creek thing noted above) so I have to say the General Lee.
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Originally Posted by all4c4lt4
The vette is quicker, but since the comparison is the General Lee, the vette is much more proned to scraping the bottom going down the dirt roads and pastures. Also, I doubt Cooter could work on the LT1, (also the jumping creek thing noted above) so I have to say the General Lee.
The technology just wasn't there yet for Cooter! 
Also, the Vette would scoop up a lot
from the pastures with the front end, the Charger had a big advantage there!
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From: Charleston SC
Depends on the General,
383 Probably
440, it would be close,
426 Hemi, Give it to the General
Typical 1969 R/T Charger specs
Performance
Displacement: 440
Horsepower: 390 bhp @ 4700 rpm
Torque: 490 lb-ft @ 3200 rpm
Redline: ---- rpm
0-60 mph: 5.9 sec
0-100 mph: 13.6 sec
Quarter Mile: 13.9 sec @ 104 mph
MAKE/MODEL: Dodge Charger [Road & Track (R/T)]. YEAR: 1969. ENGINE: It depends on which episode you're watching. Sometimes the engine of the General Lee was a 426 Hemi, with an Eldebrock torquer intake. Hemi is short for "Hemispherical", an engine design that provides more horsepower than any other V8, including the 440 Magnum. At other times, the General had a 440 Magnum or a 440 Six-Pack. If you see the cars in the jumps and crashes, chances are it has one of the stock engines, like a 318 or a 225. The tricked-out General Lees also had headers with 3" exhausts. It had a street-stock stall converter. FACTORY: Detroit, Michigan. TIRES: Racing, black sidewalls. CARBURETOR: A four-barrel Holly 780 Double-Pumper. Maybe a 750... TRANSMISSION: A Chrysler "Torqueflite" A-727 or B-727, the most durable automatic tranny ever built. In some episodes, however, a manual transmission was shown. LICENSE PLATE: Georgia CNH 320. MODIFICATIONS: To customize the car for the show, it was stripped down to the bare metal on the outside, the rough spots were sanded thoroughly, and then several coats of specially-mixed paint were applied. All of this work was done right at the studio, where the producers had set up a repair shop just for that purpose. The stock horn was replaced with a special horn that played the first twelve notes of "Dixie". New manifolds were put in the motor and a special exhaust system was installed; all spark plugs were replaced. A grill guard is also added, though it probably didn't protect much, knowing the way the General was driven. The roof of the General Lee was supported by three-point roll bars that helped retain the strength of the metal in the event the car was flipped over during a scene. The doors were welded shut for structural rigidity and storyline continuity. Of course, some General Lees (there were over 300) had un-welded doors. Courtesy of http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungal
383 Probably
440, it would be close,
426 Hemi, Give it to the General
Typical 1969 R/T Charger specs
Performance
Displacement: 440
Horsepower: 390 bhp @ 4700 rpm
Torque: 490 lb-ft @ 3200 rpm
Redline: ---- rpm
0-60 mph: 5.9 sec
0-100 mph: 13.6 sec
Quarter Mile: 13.9 sec @ 104 mph
MAKE/MODEL: Dodge Charger [Road & Track (R/T)]. YEAR: 1969. ENGINE: It depends on which episode you're watching. Sometimes the engine of the General Lee was a 426 Hemi, with an Eldebrock torquer intake. Hemi is short for "Hemispherical", an engine design that provides more horsepower than any other V8, including the 440 Magnum. At other times, the General had a 440 Magnum or a 440 Six-Pack. If you see the cars in the jumps and crashes, chances are it has one of the stock engines, like a 318 or a 225. The tricked-out General Lees also had headers with 3" exhausts. It had a street-stock stall converter. FACTORY: Detroit, Michigan. TIRES: Racing, black sidewalls. CARBURETOR: A four-barrel Holly 780 Double-Pumper. Maybe a 750... TRANSMISSION: A Chrysler "Torqueflite" A-727 or B-727, the most durable automatic tranny ever built. In some episodes, however, a manual transmission was shown. LICENSE PLATE: Georgia CNH 320. MODIFICATIONS: To customize the car for the show, it was stripped down to the bare metal on the outside, the rough spots were sanded thoroughly, and then several coats of specially-mixed paint were applied. All of this work was done right at the studio, where the producers had set up a repair shop just for that purpose. The stock horn was replaced with a special horn that played the first twelve notes of "Dixie". New manifolds were put in the motor and a special exhaust system was installed; all spark plugs were replaced. A grill guard is also added, though it probably didn't protect much, knowing the way the General was driven. The roof of the General Lee was supported by three-point roll bars that helped retain the strength of the metal in the event the car was flipped over during a scene. The doors were welded shut for structural rigidity and storyline continuity. Of course, some General Lees (there were over 300) had un-welded doors. Courtesy of http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Bungal
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Originally Posted by all4c4lt4
The vette is quicker, but since the comparison is the General Lee, the vette is much more proned to scraping the bottom going down the dirt roads and pastures. Also, I doubt Cooter could work on the LT1, (also the jumping creek thing noted above) so I have to say the General Lee.
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From: Richmond VA
I am so going to get it for this. I hope you guys still love me after this.
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From: Big Bear City CA
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09
Originally Posted by gramercyjam
Stock 95/96 LT1 VS Stock 69 440. It would be close. The 440 is torque monster.
That torque monster sure could smoke em up though!
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From: St. Peters MO Sometimes you have to prove yourself by doing alot of killing or alot of dying...
Originally Posted by Darth Vader
My cousin Mike says that the Dukes 69' Charger General Lee is faster than the C4 LT1. I think hes crazy. The Dodge is heavier and that 440 cant beat the 300 LT1. The Vette is quicker off the line right?????
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From: Bahston Mass.
Oh man, this one rings close to home.
For 15 years I've been looking for the "right" General Lee. I've been to CA 3 times , and 3 times have come home on a plane, with my cash.
Some day, before I die, I WILL have a General sitting in my garage, next to my C4, and my Z06. It's just something that WILL HAPPEN - not COULD happen.
I don't want an original, obviously, I'm not Bill Gates - A nicely done replica that was done RIGHT would be fine with me.
Anyways, enough hi-jacking - I don't have the 'right' answer to the question in this thread... How about EITHER ONE?? It depends WHICH General you're talking about
For 15 years I've been looking for the "right" General Lee. I've been to CA 3 times , and 3 times have come home on a plane, with my cash.
Some day, before I die, I WILL have a General sitting in my garage, next to my C4, and my Z06. It's just something that WILL HAPPEN - not COULD happen.
I don't want an original, obviously, I'm not Bill Gates - A nicely done replica that was done RIGHT would be fine with me.
Anyways, enough hi-jacking - I don't have the 'right' answer to the question in this thread... How about EITHER ONE?? It depends WHICH General you're talking about
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From: Evansville IN
St. Jude Donor '05-'06
Originally Posted by C4VetteLT1
I had a 69 Charger with the 440 Magnum back in the mid-70's that I use to run at U.S. 30 Dragstrip in Illinios. I can't remember the exact 1/4 mile times, but I know it was in the 14's. and top speed in the 1/4 was 112.? MPH. That was of course bone stock except for exhaust.
That torque monster sure could smoke em up though!
That torque monster sure could smoke em up though!
I had a '68 Dodge Coronet R/T 440 4 speed in the early to mid '70's. It ran in the mid to high 14's at 90 some mph. Would definitely fry the tires. Mine was bone stock except the Holley 3310 and a set headers with Purple Hornies collector mufflers.
Last edited by Kwikerthanu; Dec 17, 2004 at 09:55 PM.