How many Carb Conversions out there from the 82' - 84' Crossfire Era??

 

I don't believe there are any kits. *I* think a giant step backward in technology is a bad idea. There are too many advantages to EFI. There is a lot you can do to your Crossfire, but if you want more the the TBIs can give, consider another form of EFI. But NOT TPI.

RACE ON!!!

 

Mine is converted, hers is not.
This is what I have now.Wild Street Combo
It is a Awesome Setup. The only thing that I am missing is a set of Long Tubes. I should have them on soon and then it is off to the dyno and then to the track.

 

What are your goals?? You may not have to ditch the Crossfire and all the benefits of efi to achieve your goal..

 

Funny how MOST of the monsters out there are running carbs. I don't personally think it's a step back-just a different take on what you'd like to accomplish.

 

The question is relative. It depends on what you want to do with the car. If you want to drive your car on good weather warm weather days or just drive it at the track, a carb is fantastic. They make a ton of power quickly and easily and are fairly inexpensive. There are also literally thousands of combinations out there to choose from, each with it's own pro's and cons.

A GOOD fuel injection system will give you the following that a carb just can't. Instant starting regardless of conditions. A smooth idle regardless of conditions. Optimal power regardless of atmospheric conditions. Optimal fuel economy regardless of atmospheric conditions. Improved fuel economy under the widest variety of conditions.

Personally I'm a fuel injection kind of guy. I can change anything I want to about how my car runs without even getting my hands dirty just by tweaking the computer. The difference though is that I have a fairly decent fuel injection setup. In the case of a TPI intake, honestly I'd rather have a carb. The TPI computers don't have nearly so much adjustment and the TPI intakes simply run out of air.

There is no right or wrong answer, just ask yourself what YOU want to do with the car and make your choice. I like my fuel injection because I don't have to retune my car if I drive it from here to Denver. My friend loves his carb because he doesn't have a million sensors to screw with and mess up.

What do you like?

 

I have a vortec headed 6.0" rod 383 with a 780 cfm double pumper. snappy, fun, and it's not bad at all when it's cold. wait a little, and your fine. WAAAY more than a tpi could most likely ever do. but if I had the $$$, i'd have a stealth ram, or a super ram, and 2 turbos on the sucker.

just do what you want to, and screw everyone's opinion.

 

Ill tell you what, the next problem i have with mine i am ripping the whole TPI system off and putting it on e-bay. i know TPI has good points but do they out weigh the bad? look on this forum at the sheer number of problems related to the TPI system i bet there are 50 posts in referance to crappy idle problems alone, rip it and ship it out on ebay 90 percent of your problems go with it. just my 2 cents but before anyone screams at me lets be honest here i have had a miss at cruise speed for months and sunk countless hours and countless dollars in sensors and injectors and fuel pumps... well you get the idea. Not only that but pull the injection and run ANY cam you want! a friend of mine has and 88 its a real ghetto cruiser but it blows mine away on a holley carb and a real cam shaft. Let the flames begin

 

Just an opinion here, but I think the real problem with the tpi is not really that it has more problems, I believe that it is more a matter of the fact that troubleshooting an electronic based system is just going to be more difficult for the average forum member (myself included). I work on aircraft avionics systems and new and different problems are found daily, and many different faulty components can sometimes cause the same kind of problem. The same is true for our tpi cars. Again just my opinion.

 

That's right. Don't adapt to a changing world. Don't take the opportunity to actually LEARN something. Make the world adapt to you. A little PM goes a long way. Most of those idle problems could have been avoided with a little attention to detail.

You could have saved a lot if time and money if you had equipped your tool box with one vital tool; the Factory Service Manual. Not only does it lead you to the most likely causes of a problem, it takes you step by step through trouble shooting each device, so you don't have to throw money at the problem.

RACE ON!!!

 

Actually... i HAVE gone step by step and then some. I am not one of those old timers who doesnt want a touch tone phone in their house because they think the govt. is spying on them through the speaker grill. I own and operate 4 stores nationwide that build, repair and upgrade computers and computer equipment. So please dont think im anti-techno lol, and i agree learning is a wonderful thing but to be honest at this point class is over i have learned enough about this system that even the general pretty much did away with. now its about needing to get to work and wanting to turn the freaking key and have the stupid thing start and run well enough kids in subarus arent pointing and laughing while i get there. i dont have an idle problem i was just using that as an example. I have a cruise miss that nobody (including three dealerships and a few so called vette experts seem to be able to lock down) and its hard to NOT have the attitude "Ill just live with it until somthing else relating to the system quits, flakes out, burns out, melts, breaks, shorts, shunts, frys, or falls off (that should be in a week or so im sure) then ill rip it and ship it cause im tired of the problems that seem to plague this car and the name to this pain is a combination i am SURE of bringing a northern car and all of the aging wireing and electronics/electro-mechanicals to the salt air of a florida beach.

 

I think that if you put a carb on a car that originaly came with fuel injection, the resale value of that car is going to go right through the floor, no matter how much money you have put into the car, or how well thought out the system is.

jmho---

 

I put a holley 780 on a 383 in my old '84 because of problems with the no-fire...It was fast, reliable and alot of fun..I've moved on since then but I really liked that car