my new engine(possibly)
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my new engine(possibly)
Today I went down to DRE in colo and i got a quote of $11K for a 383 bottom and a stage 3 top end with headers, TB assembled, removed and installed with 4.10 in the rear, he said somewhere around 500 HP. Input?
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Originally Posted by 86C4EVER
Big $ = big power.
I think a lot of the guys that know way more about engine building than I do will say that you can do it yourself cheaper. How much of that is for the new gears?
I think a lot of the guys that know way more about engine building than I do will say that you can do it yourself cheaper. How much of that is for the new gears?
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Originally Posted by BRICHC4
plus i'm only without my car for 2 1/2 weeks and I don't have to do anything except drop it off
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yes.
I had a one week date for my machine work, took 2 weeks.
Don't be surprised of a 2.5 week delivery date becomes 6 weeks. Things happen.
My head gasket change became an engine rebuild... and it took me 2 months to do it.
I had a one week date for my machine work, took 2 weeks.
Don't be surprised of a 2.5 week delivery date becomes 6 weeks. Things happen.
My head gasket change became an engine rebuild... and it took me 2 months to do it.
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Originally Posted by BRICHC4
$1100 installed
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[QUOTE=BRICHC4]Today I went down to DRE in colo and i got a quote of $11K for a 383 bottom and a stage 3 top end with headers...
My question is: Will you still have your complete old engine? If, you do then I think it is a good deal in that if you were to decide to get a different vette you could swap the 383 out and still have most of your investment intact for an easy sell or swap into another car.
My question is: Will you still have your complete old engine? If, you do then I think it is a good deal in that if you were to decide to get a different vette you could swap the 383 out and still have most of your investment intact for an easy sell or swap into another car.
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St. Jude Donor '05
If its done right with premium parts and machine work and all you have to do is drop it off and wait two weeks it may be worth it. ,,,,Its easy to sink that much into a motor doing it yourself(ask me how I know...) If you can afford it, go for it 
You also eliminate all the hassle and downtime of tuning that monster which in itself makes it look attractive
Edit: Oh, and this is coming from a do-it-yourselfer
You also eliminate all the hassle and downtime of tuning that monster which in itself makes it look attractive
Edit: Oh, and this is coming from a do-it-yourselfer
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St. Jude Donor '05
If you went all out and spent:
2k on full CNC heads
5k on 4340 long rod short block
1k on rearend
2k installation
1k tuning, odds and ends-W.P., F.P., good roller rockers, intake porting etc. youre' in the neighborhood.
2k on full CNC heads
5k on 4340 long rod short block
1k on rearend
2k installation
1k tuning, odds and ends-W.P., F.P., good roller rockers, intake porting etc. youre' in the neighborhood.
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Originally Posted by BRICHC4
Today I went down to DRE in colo and i got a quote of $11K for a 383 bottom and a stage 3 top end with headers, TB assembled, removed and installed with 4.10 in the rear, he said somewhere around 500 HP. Input?
dont go for it bro, most shops just because you own a vette the price jumps up so high, 11k for 383 is way way too much
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Originally Posted by red L98
dont go for it bro, most shops just because you own a vette the price jumps up so high, 11k for 383 is way way too much1250 for new heads
230 for lt4 intake
300 for the cam
315 for TB 58mm
1240 for LT headers and exhaust
195 lifters
110 pushrods
2900 blueprint and porting
1450 removal and install
1100 for 4.10 gears
and free dyno tuning So you get to 11K real quick
I'm going to talk to him more on tue. about maybe just beefing up the bottom end instead of going to the 383 and saving some bucks with about the same output
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Originally Posted by BRICHC4
1700 for the 383
1250 for new heads
2900 blueprint and porting
I'm going to talk to him more on tue. about maybe just beefing up the bottom end instead of going to the 383 and saving some bucks with about the same output
1250 for new heads
2900 blueprint and porting
I'm going to talk to him more on tue. about maybe just beefing up the bottom end instead of going to the 383 and saving some bucks with about the same output
In addition, not doing the 383 and trying to get 500HP at the crank from a 350 will be very radical. The bigger cubes will get you there and still be much more streetable than the max effort 350.
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Have you thought about getting a crate motor and dropping it in?
https://secure.bcentralhost.com/prof...3_450drop.html
They say you can have one built to your specs. The major drawback is that you'd have to do the tuning or arrange to have it done.
https://secure.bcentralhost.com/prof...3_450drop.html
They say you can have one built to your specs. The major drawback is that you'd have to do the tuning or arrange to have it done.
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St. Jude Donor '05
Originally Posted by BRICHC4
1700 for the 383
1250 for new heads
230 for lt4 intake
300 for the cam
315 for TB 58mm
1240 for LT headers and exhaust
195 lifters
110 pushrods
2900 blueprint and porting
1450 removal and install
1100 for 4.10 gears
and free dyno tuning So you get to 11K real quick
I'm going to talk to him more on tue. about maybe just beefing up the bottom end instead of going to the 383 and saving some bucks with about the same output
1250 for new heads
230 for lt4 intake
300 for the cam
315 for TB 58mm
1240 for LT headers and exhaust
195 lifters
110 pushrods
2900 blueprint and porting
1450 removal and install
1100 for 4.10 gears
and free dyno tuning So you get to 11K real quick
I'm going to talk to him more on tue. about maybe just beefing up the bottom end instead of going to the 383 and saving some bucks with about the same output
I'm guessing they are porting your stockers?
Or are they buying a new casting and then porting?
A typical blueprint and ***'y costs about $750 from a good machinist
Curious to know what kind of parts used in the bottom end. Keep us posted
