84 won't start
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84 won't start
I had blown head gaskets and craked heads so I changed my heads put it all back together and the engine won't start just cranks over, looks like it is getting plenty of gas, also checked for spark it has, remove distributor line it up with TDC marks still won't start not even a backfire.
So if anybody can help me out I would be extremly thankfull
So if anybody can help me out I would be extremly thankfull
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From: The Top of Utah
Originally Posted by waterskier
remove distributor line it up with TDC marks still won't start not even a backfire.
So if anybody can help me out I would be extremly thankfull
So if anybody can help me out I would be extremly thankfull
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Not sure what quote passage is. The valves I believe are set right according to the chilton's manual, the timing also seems right.
Note! when I was installing the top manifold I torque down to tight and the gasket came out of the side of the manafold so I loosen up the bolts and slid the gasket back in and retighten the bolts.
The engine doesn't seem to be getting gas to the cylinders no gas on the plugs, I open up the throttle plate andthere is alot of gas inside the lower manifold might I have a air leak?
Note! when I was installing the top manifold I torque down to tight and the gasket came out of the side of the manafold so I loosen up the bolts and slid the gasket back in and retighten the bolts.
The engine doesn't seem to be getting gas to the cylinders no gas on the plugs, I open up the throttle plate andthere is alot of gas inside the lower manifold might I have a air leak?
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Are you getting spark? Did you check the valve open and close with the valve covers off and cranking the motor over?
Fuel puddling is normal for the CF manifold. Regarding the top plate gasket I guess it depends if damage was done. It should fire though and if the gasket is damage you would have a big vacuum leak. But it should still fire.
As CFI stated need more info. So you have air and gas. Is it making it to the cylinders and is there spark?
Fuel puddling is normal for the CF manifold. Regarding the top plate gasket I guess it depends if damage was done. It should fire though and if the gasket is damage you would have a big vacuum leak. But it should still fire.
As CFI stated need more info. So you have air and gas. Is it making it to the cylinders and is there spark?
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From: The Top of Utah
Originally Posted by waterskier
Not sure what quote passage is.
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Originally Posted by cmashark
i think you confused him with the quote. he is new.
waterskier,
Can you explain the part of your opening post, that I quoted in the #2 post?
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I think I better start over, when I brought the car it wasn't running figured out the spark plug wires weren't installed right. I got the engine running but the waterpump was leaking, so I changed that fix that leak, the engine started over heating and leaking water out of the heads, blown head gaskets, remove the heads had them checked out the guy said that they were cracked.
So I found a set of rebuilt 882 heads and just install them this is were I am at. when installing the top tbi manifold gasket I tighten it to tight and the gasket slip out of the manifold so I loosen the bolts and sliped the gasket back in place and re-tighten the bolts.
Tried to start the engine just turns over, checked for spark, good spark, The gas is spraying like a shower out of the tbi, I open the throttle plate and so a lot of gas just laying inside the lower manifold,
I pulled out the #1 plug and couldn't find any gas out smell any gas on the plug
My question is how do I know if gas is even reaching the plugs and what to do to corect this if this is even the problem?
So I found a set of rebuilt 882 heads and just install them this is were I am at. when installing the top tbi manifold gasket I tighten it to tight and the gasket slip out of the manifold so I loosen the bolts and sliped the gasket back in place and re-tighten the bolts.
Tried to start the engine just turns over, checked for spark, good spark, The gas is spraying like a shower out of the tbi, I open the throttle plate and so a lot of gas just laying inside the lower manifold,
I pulled out the #1 plug and couldn't find any gas out smell any gas on the plug
My question is how do I know if gas is even reaching the plugs and what to do to corect this if this is even the problem?
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From: The Top of Utah
Originally Posted by waterskier
Tried to start the engine just turns over, checked for spark, good spark, The gas is spraying like a shower out of the tbi, I open the throttle plate and so a lot of gas just laying inside the lower manifold,
I pulled out the #1 plug and couldn't find any gas out smell any gas on the plug
My question is how do I know if gas is even reaching the plugs and what to do to corect this if this is even the problem?
I pulled out the #1 plug and couldn't find any gas out smell any gas on the plug
My question is how do I know if gas is even reaching the plugs and what to do to corect this if this is even the problem?
The lid gasket should not prevent the engine from starting. It may run badly and not idle, but even with the massive vacuum leak caused by the lid gasket, it should pop, fart, start and run, even if only poorly.
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Thanks for responding CFI, I will check again to see if the distributor is out 180 , just was looking at my engine and on the tbi lid is the egr control solenoid and in the front of it there should be some kind of plug which is missing could that be some of the problem?
Last edited by waterskier; Jun 20, 2005 at 03:06 PM.
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From: The Top of Utah
Originally Posted by waterskier
on the tbi lid is the egr control solenoid and in the front of it there should be some kind of plug which is missing could that be some of the problem?
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Will I had a hour worth of time to spend on the car and pulled the distributor and rotated the engine forward around to TDC and reinstalled the distributor now I get backfire through the TBI and ran out of time.
This weekend I am going to pull off the valve covers and readjust the valves, maybe set to tight I lashed them out one full turn, unless there is something I should be doing first?
This weekend I am going to pull off the valve covers and readjust the valves, maybe set to tight I lashed them out one full turn, unless there is something I should be doing first?
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Clean the plugs, I replaced a manifold and somehow flooded the engine would not start until I pulled all plugs, cleaned them, cranked the engine with no plugs, put the plugs back in started right up. Just a thought. (This after I pulled the dist. three time thinking it was in backwards).
Bob
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