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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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I've started to installed a pair of long tube headers on my '85 and I noticed the driver side pushing up against what I belive to be the coolant supply line to the oil filter housing. Is there something I can do about this? Is there a relocater kit any where that will fix this? thanks
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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I just did an 85 and had no problems with the oil cooler. I assume you mean the hose that comes out of the block and into the cooler. If correct, can you shorten the hose to provide clerance? I don't recall any type of relocation kit.
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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The pipe presses the hose against the fitting on the oil cooler at an angle that restricts the inside diamiater of the hose and the passenger side interferes with the starter wires. I'm thinking about just getting block huggers and not worring about it. I'm using flowtech headers btw. And what does anyone think about using baffle plates on a system w/ a hollowed cat with only resionator tips, to increase back pressure? How do I know when I have too much? thanks

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How do I know whem I have too much? thanks
Any backpressure is too much. You don't want backpressure, you want the exhaust gasses to keep their velocity. This is how the cylinders get scavenged.
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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Well, when I had a completely free flowing-no resistance exhaust, I lost acceleration and had a hell of a long start up time and the car stumbled a low idle. I made a cres. plate with large holes drilled in it and put it between the front Y-pipe and the converter. This quieted it to a reasonable level, made start up a lot quicker and made a noticable difference in acceleration (faster).
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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For those of you who asked me, I used a .080 stainless (cres) plate make from the template of the flange on the converter and evenly drilled several 3/8, 1/2, and one 3/4 hole in the center of the plate, covering almost the entire flow path but leaving plenty of metal to hold it together. I'd post a picture if I could find out how.

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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 09:05 AM
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flowtech headers? wasnt aware that they made headers for the 85 corvette, wouldnt happen to have a part number would you? i thought they only made them for c3 vettes.
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These are Flowtech 11100FLT. 1 5/8" primary to 3" collectors (came with a 2 1/2" reducer). They should fit '84-'89 corvettes.
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skyler_lloyd any update on the fitment of these headers? lmk thanks
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Morley
Any backpressure is too much. You don't want backpressure, you want the exhaust gasses to keep their velocity. This is how the cylinders get scavenged.
Not true.

Exhaust gas pulses do the scavenging of the combustion chamber. How fast or slow those pulses travel through the exhaust system determine the scavenging. Not enough backpressure and the pulse might not be timed right to match the engine and it won't scavenge effectively.
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I did a google search on the part number and it came up as headers for a Camaro.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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Just rotate the cooler base toward the engine and the line will move with it.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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No he was right. backpressure is bad under any scenario. The reason you want *properly* sized primaries is to keep the gasses from expanding and losing energy resulting in a lower velocity. Iedal gas law baby Pv=nRT Hotter gasses are less dense and flow faster. And vice versa. The restrictor plate thing is probably nothing more then a way to band-aid your newly needed tune or you went waaaay too big on your primaries and collectors imo.
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Originally Posted by ClarenceT
The restrictor plate thing is probably nothing more then a way to band-aid your newly needed tune or you went waaaay too big on your primaries and collectors imo.
Sooo, not enough back pressure?
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductG...rname=Flowtech

Here's the list of applications '84-'89 corvette included.

I used the plate to comp. for a hollow cat. with stock manifolds. I'll try what LD85 suggested when I change the oil again. As for the headers, I'm not sure if I'm gonna mess with them anytime soon, as I've been really busy lately. So sorry, no updates.
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Originally Posted by loiq
Not true.

Exhaust gas pulses do the scavenging of the combustion chamber. How fast or slow those pulses travel through the exhaust system determine the scavenging. Not enough backpressure and the pulse might not be timed right to match the engine and it won't scavenge effectively.
Two kinds of torque from scavenging... 'tuning effect' and 'velocity'.

The tuning effect in a SBC exhaust system is pretty much nonexistent IMO, the cylinders are not firing in an even order, pressure in the collector is all over the place because of this, and most long tube headers aren't even equal length anyways.
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Old Sep 17, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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Yea, these headers aren't equal length. And both sides are differently shaped.
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