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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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Oh crap!!! I got home yesterday, pulled into the garage and smelled the "fluid of death"......that's right, COOLANT I popped the hood, and sure enough.... it's leaking out the weep hole.

However, behind every dark cloud is a ray of sun. Since I need to replace the water pump, I might as well do the opti. And since I'm in that deep, I might as well do the cam...... Ah heck, let's do the heads too (Lloyd Elliot here I come).

Any suggestions on what little/minor parts I need? Gaskets, hoses, etc.....?

Also, who has the most resonable prices?
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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yeah mate... that happens...... Forget the cam, just go with 1.6:1 roller rockers. And good valve springs, which youll need anyway if you change cams to a bigger one.....
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Casethecorvetteman
yeah mate... that happens...... Forget the cam, just go with 1.6:1 roller rockers. And good valve springs, which youll need anyway if you change cams to a bigger one.....

I have an LT4.... it came stock with good valve springs and 1.6 rockers
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Definitely swap out the opti with the pump!
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Hot cam it!!!!!!!!!!!
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Upgrade the water pump to an electric Meziere HD pump. They don't leak out the weep hole when they fail, if they fail. Check out the tech tips "Meziere Coolant Pump Install"
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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Sumit sells a stock water pump for $185, and and MSD cap/rotor for ~$150.
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Old Sep 15, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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Upgrade the water pump to an electric Meziere HD pump. They don't leak out the weep hole when they fail, if they fail. Check out the tech tips "Meziere Coolant Pump Install"

My only problem with that is when they fail your only warning is overheating. I can deal with the weep hole warning.
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If you go stock make sure you do this mod for future peace of mind
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Originally Posted by Strick
Upgrade the water pump to an electric Meziere HD pump. They don't leak out the weep hole when they fail, if they fail. Check out the tech tips "Meziere Coolant Pump Install"
Even better a Meziere and a Hot Cam
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My only problem with that is when they fail your only warning is overheating. I can deal with the weep hole warning.
I ride with the coolant temp showing. Besides, that is the same arguement guys had when they came out with electric fans and electric fuel pumps. But if you want a warning, there is a circuit you can install that has a buzzer and a light (green light-it's working and Red light- it's not working). One more thing, after you replace the opti because of the coolant leaking on it, I think you'll see the value of the electric pump. If it fails, it's a 30 minute change out.
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Originally Posted by Strick
I ride with the coolant temp showing. Besides, that is the same arguement guys had when they came out with electric fans and electric fuel pumps. But if you want a warning, there is a circuit you can install that has a buzzer and a light (green light-it's working and Red light- it's not working). One more thing, after you replace the opti because of the coolant leaking on it, I think you'll see the value of the electric pump. If it fails, it's a 30 minute change out.
FYI...You can't rely on the digital temp to warn you if the pump has failed. The coolant temp sensor that's used by the digital gauge is in the waterpump housing. If the pump fails, the temp will still read basically "normal". This is because the coolant stops flowing (dead pump = 0 flow) and the coolant in the waterpump housing sits there and doesn't heat up anymore. Meanwhile, your analog gauge which uses the sender located in the cylinder will be pegged.

I had a weatherpack connector issue while sitting on the grid at the track. Fortunately I watch the analog gauge and glanced down to see it heading towards 260*. The digital gauge read about 180* at the time. The analog gauge isn't the greatest since Chevy didn't bother with decent markings much less make it linear, but it's definitely good enough to see a trend. I've since added the warning circuit.

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Originally Posted by TM-96CE
I have an LT4.... it came stock with good valve springs and 1.6 rockers

hmmm yes indeed you do. Didnt know that sorry mate!! Since you didnt state manual or auto in the post i just automatically asume auto.
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Old Sep 16, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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If you go back with the factory or stock water pump, I suggest that you tap and tread the weep hole and attach a rubber hose to it that you can then route around the opti. That way the first sign of a water leak will drop directly on your garage floor or ground, just food for thought.Good luck

Goose, Keep on cruising!!!!
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
FYI...You can't rely on the digital temp to warn you if the pump has failed. The coolant temp sensor that's used by the digital gauge is in the waterpump housing. If the pump fails, the temp will still read basically "normal". The is because the coolant stops flowing (dead pump = 0 flow) and the coolant in the waterpump housing sits there and doesn't heat up anymore. Meanwhile, your analog gauge which uses the sender located in the cylinder will be pegged.

I had a weatherpack connector issue while sitting on the grid at the track. Fortunately I watch the analog gauge and glanced down to see it heading towards 260*. The digital gauge read about 180* at the time. The analog gauge isn't the greatest since Chevy didn't bother with decent markings much less make it linear, but it's definitely good enough to see a trend. I've since added the warning circuit.
Excellent point. Which warning system did you use? Is it a flow detection warning or water temp warning? If temp, what do you use for the sensor?
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Anyone have a p/n for the Meziere HD pump??
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Originally Posted by TM-96CE
Anyone have a p/n for the Meziere HD pump??
I sent you some more info in a PM, but here is the article I wrote:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/techti...=231&TopicID=2
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I was just reading all of the posts and have a similar leak issue with my 88 vette. My question is what are you guys talking about when you say "opti." I was not sure if you guys were talking about LT1, LT4, or L98, I obviously have a L98, do i need to be concerned about the coolant leaking onto the "opti" on the L98.

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Originally Posted by jordanpingrey
I was just reading all of the posts and have a similar leak issue with my 88 vette. My question is what are you guys talking about when you say "opti." I was not sure if you guys were talking about LT1, LT4, or L98, I obviously have a L98, do i need to be concerned about the coolant leaking onto the "opti" on the L98.

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Just so you know, when you say opti you're talking LT1 and LT4, 92-96. The distributer is on the front of the engine.
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perfect, thanks for the tip
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