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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 05:33 AM
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I have my water pump and opti off of my 94 right now doing some other work and and trying to decide if I want to do anything with the opti. The car has 70K on it. The opti was running perfectly, there is no evidence any water has ever been inside it, and there is very little play in the shaft. I was thinking of replacing it while it was apart but am now thinking of just putting a vented style cap and rotor in it. I see them on ebay for less than $100. I always hear to put a new opti on while you have it apart because its such a big job but I really didnt think it took that long to get to it. Not enough to spend $350 for nothing anyhow.
So put on a new Cap and rotor? or....
Just put it back on and wait for it to die dont waste the money on the cap and rotor? or....
Stop being so tight and buy a new one you idiot?
Input anyone?
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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I also have a 1994 and several years ago I was in the same situation. Water pump and opti off. I elected to seal the opti with red RTV starting from the top and down the sides leaving the bottom vent holes open. That way if the water pump started to leak it would not enter the distributor. It has been six years now and the car still runs top notch. The tube of RTV cost me $2.99. One last piece the removal of the H2O pump and Opti is not as intimidating as advertised.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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I read in another post you can get a new bearing for $20. I normaly am on the band wagon of just replacing the Opti but am starting to think that it is a waist of money. If as in another post you can get a replacmet bearing then I would go with a new bearing and replace the cap and Rotor.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Fastmax32168
I have my water pump and opti off of my 94 right now doing some other work and and trying to decide if I want to do anything with the opti. The car has 70K on it. The opti was running perfectly, there is no evidence any water has ever been inside it, and there is very little play in the shaft. I was thinking of replacing it while it was apart but am now thinking of just putting a vented style cap and rotor in it. I see them on ebay for less than $100. I always hear to put a new opti on while you have it apart because its such a big job but I really didnt think it took that long to get to it. Not enough to spend $350 for nothing anyhow.
So put on a new Cap and rotor? or....
Just put it back on and wait for it to die dont waste the money on the cap and rotor? or....
Stop being so tight and buy a new one you idiot?
Input anyone?
Thanks
Roy
If it is running fine ,at most I would change the cap, rotor, and wires.
I am ordering parts for a ,head/cam swap, and an opti is not on my list.

Mike
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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Can you spare $700?

Yes! Click===> "DynaSpark"


Once I get some extra Ca$h I'll be buying one.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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At 70,000 miles, you MAY be living on borrowed time. At 60,000 miles, my '93 opti was working fine, but when having a heads/cam package done, the opti was full of iron oxide. Went ahead and replaced it with a '96 opti and '95 timing chain cover. If the engine is torn down, might as well do it.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Lichen
'96 opti and '95 timing chain cover.
Just make sure you don't use the 96 timing cover, it will make things alot more complicated. Good optispark reading
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Lichen
At 70,000 miles, you MAY be living on borrowed time. At 60,000 miles, my '93 opti was working fine, but when having a heads/cam package done, the opti was full of iron oxide. Went ahead and replaced it with a '96 opti and '95 timing chain cover. If the engine is torn down, might as well do it.
I disagree. If I had my '93 back at 75,000 mi again, I would use the old opti. And go to the Mez. electric water pump.

Here's what I did in 2003: '93 6spd, 75000 mi, replaced opti (no crude or anything wrong with it) with a new opti, 1995 style vented, new waterpump, and GM extreme duty chain set.

Well--the brand new opti was bad from day 1 and it took 1500 mi to realize it. So I had to pay the labor for replacement anyway.

Fast forward another 13500mi from that and the waterpump also went bad--it locked up and ruined the ___itty ED gear and trashed the whole motor by flushing pieces of gear thru it.

Take my advice.

Don't mess with it.

GM is not keeping up its quality. Look at the clutch slave /master cylinder issues.
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You obviously know what you're doing in there, so it's a very simple question you have to ask yourself:

Is the time it will take me to replace it later worth $350?

My suggestion would be to save your money. I can change an optispark in about 5 hours nowadays, I've done a few. My car sits around idle most of the time so I can do the work at my liesure, and I don't mind messing around with it.

If you drive your car often, don't have garage space to leave it sit, or just don't want to have to go through the hassle again, then pay the money and do it now. If yours worked fine then that route is equivelant to buying insurance. Nobody here can tell you how long it's going to last - could be 1,000 miles or 30,000. It's just gambling.

In the immortal words of Clint Eastwood, "Do you feel lucky? Well? Do ya...punk?"
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by aboatguy
If it is running fine ,at most I would change the cap, rotor, and wires.
I am ordering parts for a ,head/cam swap, and an opti is not on my list.

Mike
the high voltage compnents(ie cap and rotor, are the weakest link in the Optispark assembly. 70K miles is a good time to replace these 2 items, and they are not too expensive.

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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by PLRX787
Can you spare $700?

Yes! Click===> "DynaSpark"


Once I get some extra Ca$h I'll be buying one.
I spent about $700 doing the LTCC upgrade. The Dynaspark is just a better opti, which means its still an opti. IMHO you're better off spending those dollars on a modern coil on plug solution. The LTCC is essentially the LS1 ignition, which kicks the optis A$$ hands down. The delteq is similar but uses only 4 coils.
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Fastmax32168
I have my water pump and opti off of my 94 right now doing some other work and and trying to decide if I want to do anything with the opti. The car has 70K on it. The opti was running perfectly, there is no evidence any water has ever been inside it, and there is very little play in the shaft. I was thinking of replacing it while it was apart
Our 94 now has 97k, and thankfully the previous owner encountered the "service engine light and car bucks" problem, and replaced the Opti at 78.5K to the tune of a $1,800 donation to a dealer (wires/plugs/oil/filter/intake manifold gasket BUT DID NOT DO water pump, timing chain, or timing cover's water pump/opti/crank seals, DARN).

So ours failed only 8.5K more than you have on yours, maybe due to oil leak from intake/seals, but not sure.

Whereas I figure our Opti has a few miles/years(?) left in it before it will need replacement again (with pump this time and Dynaspark), yours might OR might NOT.

Consider not only that when it goes (not if), whereas you might have the time/energy, where might it be and the possibility of needing to tow the car, bad weather, winter weather, inconvenience, etc.

If you only drive around town to get milk and only in the summer, never in the rain and have personal free access to a flat-bed tow truck, then wait, otherwise, "don't put off till tomorrow, what you can do today"...

Hope this helps...
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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OK guys thanks, your combined input has convinced me I am going to cap and rotor it and put it back together. My garage is well equipped and I have done quite a bit of work so I really didnt view getting to it as a difficult project.
Admiral you are gonna love this. I live in Florida, I only drive my car when its nice out, never in the rain, and I have my own flatbed trailer.
Roy
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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Admiral you are gonna love this. I live in Florida, I only drive my car when its nice out, never in the rain, and I have my own flatbed trailer.
Roy
Your right! wana adopt me? anyway, best of luck...
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