NICE Bill thanks!! Were you still able to maintain the bottle angle thats required for adequate pick up? I was going to do two 5s but after seeing that, it appears that one 10 will fit just fine

 

Thats not my car.
mine is in pieces, and I wont have a spare tire when done.

A long time ago I discussed this with a memeber forum name black bart. I have not seen or heard from him in something like 2 years.
he had his bottle mounted in this area as well, I think he had a single 10 pound. he mentioned that the bottle has to be rotated just right, and it works fine as long as you dont let the bottle get low. basically the tube in the bottle will suffer starvation when the bottle gets too low. but if you keep it mostly full, he said it was not an issue.

if you look at your spare tire carrier, there is no way to set this up correctly in there. You wont get the 20 degree angle. to get any angle you have to mount them backwards, (bottle tops towards the rear bumper) but this counter acts the effect of what happens when you accelerate and the fluid sloshes backwards. you have to get by with what works in this set up.

When I was planning on running a 200 shot on my car, I got 2 bottles and planned on mounting them in the trunk. I bought the billet brackets and everything. I wanted to do a stereo system that basically covered the bottles, and made the whole rear area all flat. never got around to it, it blew up well before I got past the cardboard mock ups.

 

My thoughts exactly...

Why would you guys need to hide the bottle(s)? Is it to fool law enforcement officers, or just to hide their presence from other racers?

 

I have had some trouble with the police in the past, dealing with my stock Z06. If I had some N2O bottle showing, I would of been giving **** about that as well. No thanks! they were going all around the car and gave me the no front plate as well. I had the car less then 24 hours.

you never know who is going to pull you over. I had one dude scream at me I lost my license for punching it to 45 mph to avoid a potential T-boning. I had the CHP ask me to race. It's a mixed bunch.

 

Neither! I just dont want to sacrifice any storage space if unneccessary. Why have a big ole bottle in plain view and constantly in the way if not needed? Also, have you ever had a bottle blow on you?? Well neither have I but a friend of mine did on his 5.0. He purposely overfilled it a tad for pressure reasons etc, and the heat here in FL caused it to go boom. Stupid and foolish yes. Point of the story is accidents DO and CAN happen and I would much prefer the bottle outside the vehicle then a couple feet away in case disaster strikes. My .02

 

For me personally I did it to cheat... Hey, I'm an honest guy I wouldn't do it at a sanctioned event but I would for a street race any time. I don't street race much anymore but when I did it was who could cheat the best that would win... And I was pretty damn good at it!
-Jeb

 

If you ever got into a crash, you might be the first man to ever go to Mars!

 

This post is quite old but just so you know I have done a search since and the spare tire carrier is the most widely used place for hidden nitrous I have found not only for the C4 corvette but the F-body as well and I have yet to see a single problem. Perhaps you can post an example of even one time a person running this combo has been blown up or had a problem of any sort? Actually is some ways it is a lot safer, if the bottle is mounted in the cab and you get in an accident it stands a good chance of becoming a projectile. I have seen at least three post of a bottle breaking loose and flying through the car

 

I am sure that other companies can do this but the website is "Daves Nitrous outlet", google it and you should be able to find it.

 

I don't have any examples, I'm just fooling around! But I do think the best way to go fast on the street with out any problems with the law as far as power adders go is turbo!

 

I have, and assume anyone with common sense has, a blow down tube so that if the tank gets over pressurized the nitrous will be blown outboard. If your 5.0 friend didn't have one, he's an idiot. Never mind, he deliberately overfilled his tank.. he's an idiot regardless.

 

Nice of you to pass judgement, I'm SURE you are perfect! Regardless, it's call ignorance. Because you might not have knowledge regarding a situation doesn't make you an 'idiot', it makes you ignorant. We all learn from our mistakes and others mistakes as well, as is evident here. Overfilling the bottle a tad is a trick that many gear heads have done for years in replacement of being able to reach higher pressures. But when extreme heat plays a role (i.e. the direct path of sunlight in a hatchback in FL @ 96 degrees beating down on the bottle) it tends to throw a wrench in the mix. Bringing back to my point that s#*t happens and I'd rather not have the bottle in the same vicinity as myself and my passenger. The spare tire carrier is a great place for me as long as it all fits. I will be attempting a fit here soon and will post to those of you interested.

 

I'm not saying the spare tire is a bad place to put it.

I maintain that your friend was foolish. Had his tank blown when he was at speed he could have easily been killed... or killed someone else, maybe several someone else's... maybe you or someone you care about.
IMHO here, ignorance is no excuse. Wouldn't you think your friend was foolish if he didn't tighten the lugnuts , because he didn't know to tighten them, on his tires after changing them? It's a similar situation, one should know enough about a vehicle system to be safe.

As far as overfilling his tank... well I think that's foolish as well. I live in AZ(18 years here) and know a little bit about 96F heat. I don't know of anyone around here that deliberately overfills their tanks... they know better...they know it could get up to 96F degrees.

 

I can't believe I'm actually going to say something regarding this; I usually try my best to be nice but I have to say something here...

First: Ignorance is forgivable, it comes from lack of knowledge.
Second: Stupidity is NOT forgivable... There is no excuse for stupidity; it comes from the REFUSAL to gain knowledge! What your friend did was ignore the warnings on not only the N2O bottle itself (which on every mfg's bottle is very CLEARLY written) but also the instructions that came with his nitrous kit... That is stupidity...

Now, having said that I have seen catastrophic bottle failures on a couple of occasions. All were the result of stupidity OR product failure, or both. The burst discs should vent the pressure should too much accumulate but they have been known to fail with catastrophic results. I'm sure most on here have seen the pic of the ex-Nissan Maxima and garage of one IDIOT who overfilled his bottle AND left his bottle warmer on all night... Blammo!!! No more car and half his house destroyed. An acquaintence of mine left his bottle (full) in the back of his Vette (a black '84) in an Illinois mall parking lot in the middle of summer to shop with his wife. They heard a tremendous explosion and he KNEW what it was immediately... He kicks himself to this day for his stupidity but also blames it on a faulty burst disc.
-Jeb

 

Thanks Jeb. Well, I'm not going to continue to fuel this conversation and stray even farther from the orig topic. It's obvious everyone sees things a bit different. One thing I think we can ALL agree on is that when it comes to racing, we all may push the envelope to achieve those extra ponies...whether it's the limits of safety or reliabilty. Regardless, experience is the best teacher and if you fail to learn from that...then you are a true idiot! Sometimes, I just assume learn from others good and bad experiences and save myself the effort.