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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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Im sure this has been asked before but i cant find the exact thread im looking for. who all has tried to hide their nitrous system more or less? how did you do it? where do you hide the bottle? more precisely, i have heard that most people use a gym ba to put their bottle in when its in the hatch. anyone have any pics of this or anything else like a hidden setup? TIA!
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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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i put a towel over mine. but i think i am going to do the gym bag thing...

i was goin to make a little sheet metal like box but that requires more work.. and everntually i may ditch the n20 for an Lcvette like turbo setup.
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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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i like it, cut out the bottom, right? maybe I'l put a gym bag over my turbo J/k
seriously though, why can't you just pull your shade? rollcage?
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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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What about removing the spare?? I have no intention of hiding anything but I if I where the spare tire compartment would be the first place I would look
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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The spare tire compartment is not as easy as you would think. I couldn't come up with anyway to mount the bottle in there with good access to the siphon tube.

I ended up going with the gym bag in the hatch.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by neat
The spare tire compartment is not as easy as you would think. I couldn't come up with anyway to mount the bottle in there with good access to the siphon tube.
I would use a remote bottle opener and quick relaese Bottle mounts like the ones 860 sells. Not sure what you are refering to with siphon tube, if you are refering to the blow down tube it is not nessasary with the bottle on the out side of the car. Again I may have all the answers because I have no intention of making a hiden system. Now if I was for $800 Nitros outlet will modify your intake and make a compleatly hiden direct port system so you could pop the hood and no nitrous parts would be visible. The gym bag is a neat idea but what angle is the bottle at with the bag or is it a fairly tall bag?
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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the siphon tube is the tube that goes down into the bottle into the liquid. it must be mounted an a certian angle.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by redbullapril23
the siphon tube is the tube that goes down into the bottle into the liquid. it must be mounted an a certian angle.
Doh, the access statment through me off. If it an angle problem with the bottle valve getting in the way up top for the siphon pick up tube I think you can just invert the bottle and remove the tube and it will work fine. I have done it on motorcycles in the past and it worked fine as long as the bottle was at a 20 deg angle min with the valve on the bottom.

I actualy found a crude refence on this NOS site where they show the bottle mounted compleatly inverted without the tube but again I think it will work at a min 20 deg angle

http://doublea.speedgeeks.org/nitrous/neondry.pdf#search='Nitrous%20remove%20s iphon%20tube'
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When I did mine acutally bolted the bottle holders through the bottom of the bag and into the storage lid. I only used the front bottle holder and it did just fine. I ended up with 4 holes in the bottom of the bag, everything else is inside the bag. The holes were for the hose w/ wires, blowdown tube, and two for the bracket holes.

no one ever knew it was there until they tried to pick the bag up and it wouldn't move.

My gym bag had an end zip up compartment that I could just unzip and I cut two small holes into the main compartment and the pressure gauge and valve handle stuck out, one small zip and I could open up the bottle.
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Mounting the bottle with anything even remotely close to a 20 degree slant puts the bottle extremely low to the ground. And it would make it impossible to get the carrier back up to stock height.

I messed with it for a couple days, and used some pretty creative solutions, and never could get it mounted inside the tire carrier, the tire carrier competey up, and anything resembling a decent angle for the bottle. I also tried removing the siphon tube and mounting the bottle nozzle back, but it was still at nearly zero downward slant, which resulted in the hit going flat off the line.

If you found a way to truly effectively mount the bottle in the spare carrier, and were able to get the carrier to return to it's stock position, you're more of a mechanic than I am.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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Neat have you considered using a smaller bottle? Two of the 5 pounders ought to do the trick in the spare tire carrier. This is the route I'm considering at the moment. For now I've just got the bottle mounted to a peice of fiberboad that I strapped down in the back.
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by neat
Mounting the bottle with anything even remotely close to a 20 degree slant puts the bottle extremely low to the ground. And it would make it impossible to get the carrier back up to stock height.

I messed with it for a couple days, and used some pretty creative solutions, and never could get it mounted inside the tire carrier, the tire carrier competey up, and anything resembling a decent angle for the bottle. I also tried removing the siphon tube and mounting the bottle nozzle back, but it was still at nearly zero downward slant, which resulted in the hit going flat off the line.

If you found a way to truly effectively mount the bottle in the spare carrier, and were able to get the carrier to return to it's stock position, you're more of a mechanic than I am.
It was just a though but if you have tried it and say there is no way then I believe you. The only thing I can think of that may add some space would be to cut the top part of the carier and bolt the bottle up higher. I happen to have a spare carrier from my 84. It has been a while but I thought I remembered quite a bit of room under there with the carrier completly removed but as I said it has been over two years.
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Sneeky Pete bottles??
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FD2BLK
I would use a remote bottle opener and quick relaese Bottle mounts like the ones 860 sells. Not sure what you are refering to with siphon tube, if you are refering to the blow down tube it is not nessasary with the bottle on the out side of the car. Again I may have all the answers because I have no intention of making a hiden system. Now if I was for $800 Nitros outlet will modify your intake and make a compleatly hiden direct port system so you could pop the hood and no nitrous parts would be visible. The gym bag is a neat idea but what angle is the bottle at with the bag or is it a fairly tall bag?

do they have a website? where did u hear about this? this kind of sounds like the way to go. that way even if u pop ur hood no one can tell. do any other companies do anything like this?
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 12:45 AM
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Ive done a few installs on C4s and was able to get a 10 lb bottle in the spare tire well. It was a lil more difficult though. However it did fit totally hidden and was able to use an NX remote bottle opener as well. If I remember correctly I mounted it sideways with the pick up point at a 45 degree angel towards the rear. It will not be the best for when the bottle is low...but for 7 or 8 lbs worth its just fine. Customer ran 12.2s on motor. 11.4s on a 100 shot and 11.1 on a 150. 96 C4 auto with mild heads and cam.
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why hide it? What exactly is the point?
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When I was building all of the street race cars around here we hid it EVERYWHERE! I've used gym bags with some nasty looking socks sticking out of it. I've used laundry baskets, woofer enclosures, motorcycle bottles hidden in different places. The baddest system I did was under the manifold but an Impala SS also comes to mind. We took the "homeplate" off the top, cut the bottom open and installed the solenoids inside. I machined a new "hockey puck" out of aluminum and installed two fogger nozzles in it pointed at the t.b. The fuel feed and n2o lines came out of the back rear of the homeplate and were run inside vacuum tubing. Nobody EVER found that system and that car was a routine money player around here until its owner sold it a couple of years ago.
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Originally Posted by drochau
Neat have you considered using a smaller bottle? Two of the 5 pounders ought to do the trick in the spare tire carrier. This is the route I'm considering at the moment. For now I've just got the bottle mounted to a peice of fiberboad that I strapped down in the back.
So has anyone tried the 2 5# bottles in the carrier or no? I have a 10# at the shop and am going to play with it this weekend so see if I can get it to work properly. I'll post my findings...
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I had pics of 2 10 pound bottles mounted in the spare tire area. I had them on my external harddrive at work, but I think someone stole it. I have been searching for over a week. if it turns up I will post em.
in the meantime I am looking for the source of where I got those pics
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