Is anyone using an engine pre-oiler?
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Burning Brakes
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From: Prattville, AL. My Dog Thinks I'm Cool!
Is anyone using an engine pre-oiler?
I was thinking about installing a pre-oiler system on both my vettes and was wondering if anyone is using one? If so could you recommend one? Thanks, Paul 
Le Mans Master
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From: Edmonton AB
I have one of Canton's Accusumps on another vehicle.
While the primary purpose of the Accusump is to
maintain oil pressure in the event that oil moves away
from the pickup and the pump begins to cavitate, when
equipped with a valve, either manual or operated
electrically by a solenoid, it acts as a pre-oiler.
.
While the primary purpose of the Accusump is to
maintain oil pressure in the event that oil moves away
from the pickup and the pump begins to cavitate, when
equipped with a valve, either manual or operated
electrically by a solenoid, it acts as a pre-oiler.
.
Melting Slicks
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From: Oviedo FL
Originally Posted by Slalom4me
I have one of Canton's Accusumps on another vehicle.
While the primary purpose of the Accusump is to
maintain oil pressure in the event that oil moves away
from the pickup and the pump begins to cavitate, when
equipped with a valve, either manual or operated
electrically by a solenoid, it acts as a pre-oiler.
.
While the primary purpose of the Accusump is to
maintain oil pressure in the event that oil moves away
from the pickup and the pump begins to cavitate, when
equipped with a valve, either manual or operated
electrically by a solenoid, it acts as a pre-oiler.
.
I have the same one and it works like a charm.
http://www.accusump.com/acc_products/acc_units.html
Mike
Racer
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From: Sumner Texas
Some years ago I got all enthused about building or installing a pre oiler. After thinking about it awhile, however, I decided that it was not worth the trouble and here's why:
The pre oiler primarily helps the engine bearings by ensuring that a film is present upon start up. That's great, except I have never torn apart a modern engine due to worn bearings. I have torn them apart to replace bearings, turn crankshafts and such because of oil pressure loss, but NOT due to normal wear. Engines are taken apart for a myriad of reasons, but worn bearings alone is not one of them.
As a previous poster mentioned, the accusump does indeed provide protection for oil pressure loss while engine is running. It is a much more useful addition than a pre oiler.
My $0.02,
The pre oiler primarily helps the engine bearings by ensuring that a film is present upon start up. That's great, except I have never torn apart a modern engine due to worn bearings. I have torn them apart to replace bearings, turn crankshafts and such because of oil pressure loss, but NOT due to normal wear. Engines are taken apart for a myriad of reasons, but worn bearings alone is not one of them.
As a previous poster mentioned, the accusump does indeed provide protection for oil pressure loss while engine is running. It is a much more useful addition than a pre oiler.
My $0.02,
Team Owner
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St. Jude Donor '05
Originally Posted by MBDiagMan
Some years ago I got all enthused about building or installing a pre oiler. After thinking about it awhile, however, I decided that it was not worth the trouble and here's why:
The pre oiler primarily helps the engine bearings by ensuring that a film is present upon start up. That's great, except I have never torn apart a modern engine due to worn bearings. I have torn them apart to replace bearings, turn crankshafts and such because of oil pressure loss, but NOT due to normal wear. Engines are taken apart for a myriad of reasons, but worn bearings alone is not one of them.
As a previous poster mentioned, the accusump does indeed provide protection for oil pressure loss while engine is running. It is a much more useful addition than a pre oiler.
My $0.02,
The pre oiler primarily helps the engine bearings by ensuring that a film is present upon start up. That's great, except I have never torn apart a modern engine due to worn bearings. I have torn them apart to replace bearings, turn crankshafts and such because of oil pressure loss, but NOT due to normal wear. Engines are taken apart for a myriad of reasons, but worn bearings alone is not one of them.
As a previous poster mentioned, the accusump does indeed provide protection for oil pressure loss while engine is running. It is a much more useful addition than a pre oiler.
My $0.02,
A motor can sit for an extended period of time and still have a film of oil on the bearing.
Former Vendor
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From: St Marys PA
I am adding one to my motor this year. A moroso 3qt for insurance purposes.
Many drag cars, especially more powerful ones that need to get on the brakes hard at the end of a run will experience "low pressure" or no pressure from the oil moving away from the pickup.
After any amount of WOT runs for over 10sec most of the oil in the pan winds up in the upper portion of the engine, this in turn causing the braking at the end of the strip to move whatever oil is left towards the front of the pan, and the oil pump sucks air.
Question to those of you that run one already. These things are pretty large - where did you put it? Any pictures?
Thanks.
Many drag cars, especially more powerful ones that need to get on the brakes hard at the end of a run will experience "low pressure" or no pressure from the oil moving away from the pickup.
After any amount of WOT runs for over 10sec most of the oil in the pan winds up in the upper portion of the engine, this in turn causing the braking at the end of the strip to move whatever oil is left towards the front of the pan, and the oil pump sucks air.
Question to those of you that run one already. These things are pretty large - where did you put it? Any pictures?
Thanks.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Jan 2002
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From: Edmonton AB
As mentioned previously, mine is installed in another (non-C4) car. I
can take pics easily, just don't think these'll answer your question about
locating one under the hood of a C4.
I recall several pics appearing over in Autocross - most were for C5s,
if I come across one of a C4, I'll post or PM.
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can take pics easily, just don't think these'll answer your question about
locating one under the hood of a C4.
I recall several pics appearing over in Autocross - most were for C5s,
if I come across one of a C4, I'll post or PM.
.
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
A motor can sit for an extended period of time and still have a film of oil on the bearing.
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From: Charlotte NC, behind someone going 10 under the speed limit
Originally Posted by pletner
I was thinking about installing a pre-oiler system on both my vettes and was wondering if anyone is using one? If so could you recommend one? Thanks, Paul
