I have AEX. Gordon does not accept that.

 

Please tell me where the front frame rail is. I dont see that name in the book. I relly like to take a look there

 

I am afraid that the Authoroties just go to get these guys and don give a d... if I get my money back A law suite is than the option what can take more than 3 years, costly (and bad) lawyers etc. And the car goes to the police, I never see it back again. So my only hope is to straighten these guys out to walk at the right side again so they give me the owner ID. Than I need some paper of the owner that clears me and shows that no criminal acts are involved. I do not want to be involved in that. If they are not willing to give me that. I sue them and loose as well.. If I ever sell. I play open card, tell the buyer about it. Than he can see the paper that no criminal act was involved. If he than still wants the car, ok. If not I dont have to part from my car´.

 

Nico...there is a hidden VIN # also known as a "secondary number" that is placed on the car. This has come about due to all the auto thefts in the states. They have been on all cars mfg. in the USA since the early 70's (as I recall). There are books that tell where the hidden VIN is located. If the locals authorities can't help you locate it,let me know. I have a few "connections" that can supply the location for you.

 

[QUOTE=Shadow1]Whereabouts in the frame rail did you find these build sheet copies? How did you get to them?

TIA,

Be well,

SJW

 

I thought someone here would mention this...

I don't know exactly where it is, it's in a different location on every car and it's a well hidden secret (I own a body shop and have only come across one or two in my experience). This might really help him out.

BTW, here is a shot of my engine number for refrence. How could it be chipped off the block? It's proiximity is so close to the water pump mounting hole. As someone mentioned earlier, maby they ground it off. In that case it's possible it could be raised again.

 

It's been many years since I removed the build sheets from my cars but I recall they were stuffed in the frame rail, on the drivers side, above the crossmember. You will need to be under the car and look with a flashlight in every available hole in the rail.
If the sheet is there, it may not be real evident as it is now 20+ years old and will most likely be discolored.
If it is there, you will need to be very careful when attempting to remove it as it may have become brittle also due to age.
Remember, it's just a piece of paper however in this case, it could be worth more than gold.
Good luck.

Side note....On my 87', when I retrieved the sheet I found out the car was a COPO car ordered by the CPC Group Engineering Center to be used as a "pilot" car. The sheet had quite a bit of handwritten notes on it. It had been assembled in March of 1986 and was placed on the assembly line with the 86' production cars. The car is long gone but I still have the paperwork tucked away somewhere.

 

VtVette...you are 100% correct as each car (model and year) has the secondary # in different locations. And this 84 's secondary might very well be the one already mentioned on a previous post on the R/S frame rail in the engine bay. I hope for his sake, it isn't.

 

I found my tank sticker on my 86 by dropping the spare tire cover down and shining a flashlight up inside and seen the sticker on the tank facing the front-top of tank area.
Dont try and pull it off since it can rip into pieces.You wont see the tank sticker from the back license opening or etc.
If you find a sticker there,then take the steps to remove the bumper cover and lower the rear frame rail down to pull the tank to take pictures and etc of it.

 

I didn't find them, someone here found them many years ago, I don't know the actual location.

 

Joe,
I looked at that web site, but I don't see how to check a VIN to see what options it was built with. How can Nico "find the original vin" of his car on a web site? Starting with what info???

RACE ON!!!

 

[QUOTE=Shadow1]It's been many years since I removed the build sheets from my cars but I recall they were stuffed in the frame rail, on the drivers side, above the crossmember. You will need to be under the car and look with a flashlight in every available hole in the rail.
If the sheet is there, it may not be real evident as it is now 20+ years old and will most likely be discolored.
If it is there, you will need to be very careful when attempting to remove it as it may have become brittle also due to age.
Remember, it's just a piece of paper however in this case, it could be worth more than gold.
Good luck.

QUOTE]

Thanks a bunch for the tip. I'll have to take a peek and see if I can find one on mine. Hopefully, since my car's only 12 years old, and was a low-miles garage queen 'til I got her, I can find mine and extract it intact.

Be well,

SJW

 

What a coincidence, I just read yesterday that the build sheet is stamped to the gas tank. I would hire a lawyer and let him handle it.

 

The build sheet option is a must Nico...I once got it off of my fuel tank without taking the tank out. Jack the rear of the car, remove the sp. wheel and carrier.There is a gap, app. 20mm between the fuel tank and the chassis where the anti-sway bar is located. You can usually see the lower part of the build sheet high up in the gap. I used a long thin knife and pried the sheet off. It has spots of glue on it in about 4 locations. You cannot cut thru this glue as it is very hard and brittle. The sheet will tear around the glue. It is highly unlikely that you will damage the sheet where it has the VIN...but it could happen. I would take the chance, as this is much easier than removing the fuel tank. You can always remove the tank as a last resort if you happen to lose the VIN by doing what I did on my 86 convertible.
If you happen to "lose" the VIN on the top RH corner of the sheet, there are other identifiers...inc. Job Sequence No., the dealer who ordered it, "VDN No" (don't know what this is)..and I'm sure the Corvette factory could help you if you supplied info to them from the sheet.
If you have/can borrow a domestic steaming machine, I would probably treat the part of the sheet that is visible with that to minimise damage.
It would be highly unlikely that previous scum would have bothered to remove the tank and/or the build sheet. Good luck with this..

 

That is good news. When I bring them in court, that really helps to prove that they did falsify the papers. If the car has been stolen, it really puts them in Jail what helps to heal my wounds. And they can´t hurt anybody else nomore. Now there last claim was that during import the car was given the date of import, BS.. I did not tell them wy, I leave that until the moment they hang them selves with nonsense stories in court. Now my min concern is to get the carfax. That may give me some means to back-up my part of the story and perhaps also to findout if no criminal act are involved like theft.
I keep you all posted

 

Thanks. I have access to an elevator tomorrow, so that will give me time to search from below

 

Nico...an elevator is not necessary and a mirror may not help you.
I have had to find this number too, once before. You need to take the left hand side centre and front inner black guards off. These are the ones directly behind the lh fr. wheel.
On the vertically upright section of the frame you will find the last 6 numbers of the VIN. They will start with the number 5.
You will probably need to clean the frame rail to see them, as there will be much dirt which may hide the numbers....but they will be there.
Hopefully, they will not be the same as on the windshield VIN plate! Good luck..

 

Perhaps i didn't state it right, what i was trying to say was that he could find the correct vin numbers for a 84 there and have it for court if needed. I found everything listed on my rpo there as well.
You are correct as to raising the vin # from the frame, even if it has been ground off or welded over, etching will bring it back up, i used to have this done when buiding harleys to make sure i wasn't building a stolen bike. ...joe

 

Carfax has been run and sent via PM per your request.... good luck. Looks as if it comes back as an '87 and started off in St Petersburg Florida with one owner.

 

I also forwarded a copy of the original to the E-mail address you gave if you need that other than the copy and pasted version in the PM.