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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 10:46 PM
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Stripping out '90 for race only car.
Wanting to retain stock weatherpak ECM for engine management only.
Has anybody disabled the CCM inputs by programming the memcal or wiring in suitable inputs / resistors so that the bulk of the underdash wiring including the CCM can be removed?
Functions like starter relay can be bypassed , fuel pump etc direct wired.
What about the SIR (Airbag) signal?
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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using stock type pcm you cannot run the car without the ccm. It uses a random logic passcode for the security to power up the fuel and starter. You can override starter then you have no fuel.
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 12:35 AM
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Bummer ,
looks like I might be going back to the MAF setup from the '89.
Was hoping to use SD.
Thanks
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 07:50 AM
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Why not strip everything and use an aftermarket fuel management system, probably easier to tune as well.

Isnt there one on the market called FAST or something?

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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rodj
Bummer ,
looks like I might be going back to the MAF setup from the '89.
Was hoping to use SD.
Thanks
There is a way you can keep the SD setup, I just fitted a 1990 SD setup in my 84 Crossfire.

I used a 91 F body ECM .....#16198262
Harness from Jim's TPI ....http://www.jimsperformance.com/carty3.html
And a VATS disabled prom also from Jim's TPI.

Very helpfull man, and very clear instructions supplied with the harness. I have installed the complete setup into the 84 with no problems what so ever, the only thing that does'nt work is the ave / inst milage on the dash but that does'nt sound like that will be an issue for your setup
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I hope this helps, if you have any questions PM me

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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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I thought you could disable the VATS info on the ECM?
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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The VATS disable was done on the prom in this case cos I bought the ECM elsewhere and pluged Jims prom in it and away we went.





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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 03:00 PM
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I will try to take a look at how the newer dash gets it's info but the ECM can be made to be stand alone with a simple VATS disable. If it where a 94/95 ECM I could do it for you but the 92/93 requires a chip burn. THe only other thing I can think of is the serial line but I believe that is in parrallel. None of the F-bodys have the CCM and they use the same ECM P/N for the 93 SD LT1. I installed a 95 LT1 into my 84 and everything worked fine, did the harness myself but the newer style dash is differnt and I don't know off the top of my head where the spedo gets its info from.
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help
my 90 has an sys flashing on the dash
was told it is from a dead battery code in the ccm, remove that code and I am good , but never explained how to remove it
yes the brake light is flashing when my reader is set at ccm
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my 90 has an sys flashing on the dash
was told it is from a dead battery code in the ccm, remove that code and I am good , but never explained how to remove it
yes the brake light is flashing when my reader is set at ccm
CCM clear procedure is midway down this link. You should have no issues.

http://tech.corvettecentral.com/2011...trouble-codes/
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
CCM clear procedure is midway down this link. You should have no issues.

http://tech.corvettecentral.com/2011...trouble-codes/
thank you
just reading a book on how to
says there are 6 systems but does not say what one is in a 90 vette
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Originally Posted by Joe
thank you
just reading a book on how to
says there are 6 systems but does not say what one is in a 90 vette
Everything you need to know is in that link. It's pretty straight forward and the procedure is usually effortless.
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
Everything you need to know is in that link. It's pretty straight forward and the procedure is usually effortless.
the one says to drive it over 20 to clear it , can't be mine to dam easy
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Originally Posted by Joe
the one says to drive it over 20 to clear it , can't be mine to dam easy
If you have a SYS light that is generally an indicator of a charging system fault, bad alternator or battery. Have you corrected the problem with the charging system?
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 06:41 PM
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not sure I have a problem , have charged the battery up it is new , I had the wire off the alternator a few weeks ago when it was hot and arked it by mistake , fried the battery , am thinking it fried my float charger to as the battery has always gone dead if I don't start it every few days so use the charger ! the car started fine but on the way home I had a go with another C4 took him but it started backfiring at high RPM's always been a sign of a low battery , took it for a drive after charging it and runs fine , always thought the battery was to small and so is the 105 amp alternator but my meter says it is putting out 14.4 volts !

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Hi Rod, just out of interest,
what type of racing are you using the 90 for ?
what sort of intake system are you using ?
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 11:28 PM
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Thanks Guys
you are the best
I have printed it
will try to determine what applies to my 90 L98
and see if I can fix it
sure did not see this one coming
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Old Jun 30, 2014 | 09:10 PM
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well we tried everything
looks like we need a new ECM
will start shopping on EBay
but thanks everyone your your help !




part ZR1 & GS and a lot of blood sweat and fun !
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