396...itīs alive!!!!
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Burning Brakes
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396...itīs alive!!!!
Hi all
maybe some of you know me building a 396..
today i fired her up...a bit tweaking with ignition timing..and it runs...
what a sound!!! it sounds very torquey! also, the McLeod Stree Twin releases fine!!
i want to say many thanks to all that helped me, answered questions, aso...
special thanks to Jake, cuisinartvet, CorvetteKidNc, Steve40th, Mos90, LD85, Slalom4me, luvmy92,FD2BLK,mothersworry, and all the others
i have a bit problems with high oil pressure, since i used a high volume pump, but all in all..it runs
also thanks to Alvin for the tune, i hope i can drive soon, to have it refined.
have a nice day
Reinhold aka Corvette90
maybe some of you know me building a 396..
today i fired her up...a bit tweaking with ignition timing..and it runs...
what a sound!!! it sounds very torquey! also, the McLeod Stree Twin releases fine!!
i want to say many thanks to all that helped me, answered questions, aso...
special thanks to Jake, cuisinartvet, CorvetteKidNc, Steve40th, Mos90, LD85, Slalom4me, luvmy92,FD2BLK,mothersworry, and all the others
i have a bit problems with high oil pressure, since i used a high volume pump, but all in all..it runs
also thanks to Alvin for the tune, i hope i can drive soon, to have it refined.
have a nice day
Reinhold aka Corvette90
Last edited by corvette90; Feb 11, 2006 at 12:20 PM.
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Congrats, and on the high oil presure, is it sticking at 80 PSI? If so it may just be a bad sensor or a poor ground. I had a problem on my 84 when i droped in the LT1 where a bad ground caused my OP to read much higer then it actualy was. The bad ground would cause it to read about 65 PSI hot at idle and if you even touched the throttle to jump to 80.
Melting Slicks
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Congratulations,
I put mine in over Christmas...
If you want to take a look http://www.ndneyes.com/mo/projects1.html
Good luck with your tune
Mo
I put mine in over Christmas...
If you want to take a look http://www.ndneyes.com/mo/projects1.html
Good luck with your tune
Mo
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Burning Brakes
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From: Austria
Originally Posted by FD2BLK
Congrats, and on the high oil presure, is it sticking at 80 PSI? If so it may just be a bad sensor or a poor ground. I had a problem on my 84 when i droped in the LT1 where a bad ground caused my OP to read much higer then it actualy was. The bad ground would cause it to read about 65 PSI hot at idle and if you even touched the throttle to jump to 80.
sounds a bit familiar...
the pressure stays at about 60 psi, goes up when i give gas slowly, and suddenly jumps to over the board!
i will take a closer look at the sender!!
thanks for the suggestion!!!
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Burning Brakes
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Originally Posted by Mo_Bandy
Congratulations,
I put mine in over Christmas...
If you want to take a look http://www.ndneyes.com/mo/projects1.html
Good luck with your tune
Mo
I put mine in over Christmas...
If you want to take a look http://www.ndneyes.com/mo/projects1.html
Good luck with your tune
Mo
Hi Mo
thank you!!
i know your site very well, i came across it, when i searched google for 396..
looks very nice and clean your engine!!
have you fired it up already?
regards
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From: Charleston SC
Originally Posted by corvette90
Hi
sounds a bit familiar...
the pressure stays at about 60 psi, goes up when i give gas slowly, and suddenly jumps to over the board!
i will take a closer look at the sender!!
thanks for the suggestion!!!
sounds a bit familiar...
the pressure stays at about 60 psi, goes up when i give gas slowly, and suddenly jumps to over the board!
i will take a closer look at the sender!!
thanks for the suggestion!!!
A qick check that worked for me is to find a good place on the sender with no paint (I Scaped it a little to mak sure) Then I used a hose clamp to clamp a wire to the outside of the sender and hooked the other end to a known good ground (I used an intake stud). For me the problem wqs that I had remote mounted my sending unit with rubber line but I could see the exact same problem with teflon tape or RTV if it became an insilator. The sending unit needs ground as a refence. I hope this helps if not it was a free shot.
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So exactly how much clearancing did you do to the block? Were there any problems with the oil pan and the big crankshaft counterweights? I bet that sucker sounds evil. I feel sorry for your clutch. 
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Originally Posted by Mo_Bandy
Congratulations,
I put mine in over Christmas...
If you want to take a look http://www.ndneyes.com/mo/projects1.html
Good luck with your tune
Mo
I put mine in over Christmas...
If you want to take a look http://www.ndneyes.com/mo/projects1.html
Good luck with your tune
Mo
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Burning Brakes
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From: Austria
Originally Posted by kopbet89c4
So exactly how much clearancing did you do to the block? Were there any problems with the oil pan and the big crankshaft counterweights? I bet that sucker sounds evil. I feel sorry for your clutch.
i used an GMPP Block, so clearancing was moddest, i think about .1-.15 inches
i used an forged eagle crank, and a 240-15T (hope this is the correct number) stroker oil pan from Canton.
i had only to bend the crank scraper about .050 inches
the sound...a deep rumble, with a bit lope..just fine :-) ..big block style
Ths street twin should take the abuse..i hope so
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Originally Posted by corvette90
Hi
sounds a bit familiar...
the pressure stays at about 60 psi, goes up when i give gas slowly, and suddenly jumps to over the board!
i will take a closer look at the sender!!
thanks for the suggestion!!!
sounds a bit familiar...
the pressure stays at about 60 psi, goes up when i give gas slowly, and suddenly jumps to over the board!
i will take a closer look at the sender!!
thanks for the suggestion!!!
There are a few things that effect oil pressure other than bearing clearances. One is the weight of the oil you're using and another is the temperature of the oil.
Once the oil reaches normal operating temperature, somewhere in the area of 200 degrees F, the pressure will be lower than it is when the oil is cold as when the engine is first started.
The ambient temperature - how cold it is in the garage or outside - will cause the oil to take longer to reach its operating temperature, so go easy on the RPMs until the oil comes up to normal temperature.
Keep us posted on what you find.
Jake
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Great to hear, I'll bet it'll be a beast. What Jake said re/ oil pressure. With a Canton pan you should be fine w/ a high volume pump. Keep us posted!
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Originally Posted by 96CEwGEARS
Great pics, Mo. And to restate the question: fired 'er up yet?
regards, all...
Mo
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Burning Brakes
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From: Austria
Hi Jake!
i use 10W-30 oil, maybe i will switch to Mobil 1, also, i wont be hard at the throttle for the first 1000 miles
How would you break in the engine?
i read somewhere, ot to make the highest rpm, but put load on the engine..that expands the rings against the walls and seat them well
thank you
i use 10W-30 oil, maybe i will switch to Mobil 1, also, i wont be hard at the throttle for the first 1000 miles
How would you break in the engine?
i read somewhere, ot to make the highest rpm, but put load on the engine..that expands the rings against the walls and seat them well
thank you
Le Mans Master
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From: Scarborough ONTARIO
http://mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
Here is the i followed and by others on here.
Congrats on new killer, post some idle and rev vedio clips, i love that muscle sound.
Here is the i followed and by others on here.
Congrats on new killer, post some idle and rev vedio clips, i love that muscle sound.
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From: St Marys PA
Nowdays with todays better ring packages the motor is nearly broke in immediately upon startup. I have seen motors started up, run for ~3-4 minutes to set the timing etc. OIl changed, car loaded onto trailer, unloaded at track, driven to staging lanes, and run down the strip with no ill effects. If its going to hold together, then its going to be fine to do the above. If its going to blow apart - its going to blow apart. There is nothing that is getting "seasoned" or anything in a motor. Its either going to hold together or not.
People are just leary the first couple of times running a motor real hard, as that is usually when you find something is not right.
As for the rings, I always just run the car like normal - HARD.
They are like kids, teach them early what you expect and the rest is pretty simple. 
People are just leary the first couple of times running a motor real hard, as that is usually when you find something is not right.
As for the rings, I always just run the car like normal - HARD.
They are like kids, teach them early what you expect and the rest is pretty simple.
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From: Indianapolis IN
Originally Posted by sami85L98
http://mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm
Here is the i followed and by others on here.
Congrats on new killer, post some idle and rev vedio clips, i love that muscle sound.
Here is the i followed and by others on here.
Congrats on new killer, post some idle and rev vedio clips, i love that muscle sound.
This method worked great for me every time! You can pretty much break it in, in the first 30 minutes of driving the car once it is warmed up!
Burning Brakes
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The new school of thought says to break in an engine the way you are going to drive it. This will cause the rings to seat so that they seal best for the way you normally drive and will make the engine more efficient. No more babying it for the first 500 miles because the rings will seat under these babied loads and when you drive it as you normally would they will have to reseat creating more wear than necessary.
Hope this helps
Jerris
Hope this helps
Jerris