Hurst Roll Controll install?
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Hurst Roll Controll install?
I just purchased a hurst roll controll for my 85 Vert. I read the instruction / warning sheet, and looked over the insruction diagrams. None of the diagrams are useful compared to the actual setup that I have on my car. Has anyone used Hurst roll controll and if so what adjustments did you use to make it work?
Rssshen vette
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I installed the TCI kit on my '87. I disconnected the front brake line from the master cylinder. I ran a custom line (about 8") from the front port of the master cylinder to the inlet port on the line lock unit. Then I installed my front brake line (with the help of an adapter - I don't recall what size) into the outlet port of the line lock unit.
Where are you encountering problems?
If you search the archives using "line lock" in the keywords, you'll come up with a couple of threads. One of them has some pictures that Mojo posted of his set up.
Where are you encountering problems?
If you search the archives using "line lock" in the keywords, you'll come up with a couple of threads. One of them has some pictures that Mojo posted of his set up.
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My problem is the master cyclinder on my car has two separate brake lines for the front left and right brakes. I realize that I need to "T" them together to make it work on both front wheels, but what type of material should I use? and where start looking to get the material I will need?
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Im with you man mine also has 2 lines going out to the front, does any one know the recomended way to do it with out causing braking issues?
how do you plug the port is it metric or std thread? do we use a Tee fitting to connect the front together?
how do you plug the port is it metric or std thread? do we use a Tee fitting to connect the front together?
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Originally Posted by rssshen vette
Skateparkdave did a install on his car. I asked him how and what did he do? I think he could shed some light on what direction to go in
Mine only has one front line so I'm no help.
Sounds like 85vet has the plan. Any pics 85vet?? Pics are worth 1000 words.
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If you just use the front line on the master cyl you should be ok.
Remove break line from master ,hook that line into the hurst unit and install a short line from the roll control to the master.That should do it .I would not try to "T" into the line in the center of the frame or the lines near the steering knuckle ,that is way to much work.When you hook up the button dont ground the wire you will fry the button.
Remove break line from master ,hook that line into the hurst unit and install a short line from the roll control to the master.That should do it .I would not try to "T" into the line in the center of the frame or the lines near the steering knuckle ,that is way to much work.When you hook up the button dont ground the wire you will fry the button.
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Originally Posted by skateparkdave
Sorry, I've been gone all weekend, I just got the pm.
Mine only has one front line so I'm no help.
Sounds like 85vet has the plan. Any pics 85vet?? Pics are worth 1000 words.
Mine only has one front line so I'm no help.
Sounds like 85vet has the plan. Any pics 85vet?? Pics are worth 1000 words.
Check out Line-Lock
http://photobucket.com/albums/a26/vet85us/
Last edited by 85vet; Feb 13, 2006 at 01:43 PM.
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Originally Posted by REDC4CORVETTE
If you just use the front line on the master cyl you should be ok.
Remove break line from master ,hook that line into the hurst unit and install a short line from the roll control to the master.That should do it .I would not try to "T" into the line in the center of the frame or the lines near the steering knuckle ,that is way to much work.
Remove break line from master ,hook that line into the hurst unit and install a short line from the roll control to the master.That should do it .I would not try to "T" into the line in the center of the frame or the lines near the steering knuckle ,that is way to much work.
...That's the easiest way to do it. You can find the new short line at NAPA with fittings/flared already. You need a adapter or a new fitting for the 'old' line that went to the master. If you go for a new fitting, it must be doubled flared.
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Originally Posted by dr.juice
...That's the easiest way to do it. You can find the new short line at NAPA with fittings/flared already. You need a adapter or a new fitting for the 'old' line that went to the master. If you go for a new fitting, it must be doubled flared.You may be right about the work - but it holds my car just fine for my burnout.
Check out how I set up mine - see Line-Lock folder
http://photobucket.com/albums/a26/vet85us/
Another item to note - the brake lines are metric, so I had to ream the fittings slightly to enable them to fit.
Last edited by 85vet; Feb 13, 2006 at 10:15 PM.
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Originally Posted by REDC4CORVETTE
If you just use the front line on the master cyl you should be ok.
Remove break line from master ,hook that line into the hurst unit and install a short line from the roll control to the master.That should do it .I would not try to "T" into the line in the center of the frame or the lines near the steering knuckle ,that is way to much work.When you hook up the button dont ground the wire you will fry the button.
Remove break line from master ,hook that line into the hurst unit and install a short line from the roll control to the master.That should do it .I would not try to "T" into the line in the center of the frame or the lines near the steering knuckle ,that is way to much work.When you hook up the button dont ground the wire you will fry the button.
I may be wrong but it's my understanding that he has three lines coming out of his master and not just two. One for the rear and two for the front. He pm'd me about it and I advised he start a thread because I only have one from the front and one from rear. This is why the "T" is needed on his going to and from the linelock solenoid. If not he'll only be holding one side. That would make for an interesting "doughnut" burnout.
Last edited by skateparkdave; Feb 13, 2006 at 04:19 PM.
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Originally Posted by 85vet
Rssshen vette - Did you have a chance to see the pics at photobucket.com? See my previous post.
Whew, I'm glad I only have one front and one rear line at master. That looks like a bit of a PITA of an install.
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Originally Posted by skateparkdave
Do you have a pic of the master cylinder with the two front lines?? I'm interested to see what it looks like.
Whew, I'm glad I only have one front and one rear line at master. That looks like a bit of a PITA of an install.
Whew, I'm glad I only have one front and one rear line at master. That looks like a bit of a PITA of an install.
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From: Lahaina Hi
Hay Dave!
Just getting ready for opening day of the races friday the 17 th.Camera crews on Saturday the 18 th Got to pick them up from the airport.Not to hijack your thread.
I would just tie into the bottom of the "T" Above the T doesn't look like factory.
Just getting ready for opening day of the races friday the 17 th.Camera crews on Saturday the 18 th Got to pick them up from the airport.Not to hijack your thread.
I would just tie into the bottom of the "T" Above the T doesn't look like factory.
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Ahhhh, there it is. Thanks 85vet!!
And here's what mine looks like. This is what John (REDC4CORVETTE) is describing. Much easier install but on a single front master cylinder...Hope this sheds further light to all interested.
And here's what mine looks like. This is what John (REDC4CORVETTE) is describing. Much easier install but on a single front master cylinder...Hope this sheds further light to all interested.
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On second thought ,see if the round unit where the one break line goes into had just that one line to it or if it breaks off again.If it is just the one line I would tie in below the round electrical unit.
I would have everything ready to go or plug the break lines so not alot of fluid leaks out.When you are done make sure you have plenty of fluid in the master.If the breaks lock up when using the line lock and wont unlock ,you have air in the system.Let us know.
I will Dave .
I hope the T.V. station K5 will make more racers show up for Saturday.I only like the Summit racing on fridays.I hope to have the blown car running for this race.They made me VP ,that is what happens when you make big explosions at the track ,they promote you. I doubt I will be able to race on Saturday.
I would have everything ready to go or plug the break lines so not alot of fluid leaks out.When you are done make sure you have plenty of fluid in the master.If the breaks lock up when using the line lock and wont unlock ,you have air in the system.Let us know.
I will Dave .
I hope the T.V. station K5 will make more racers show up for Saturday.I only like the Summit racing on fridays.I hope to have the blown car running for this race.They made me VP
,that is what happens when you make big explosions at the track ,they promote you. I doubt I will be able to race on Saturday.
Last edited by REDC4CORVETTE; Feb 14, 2006 at 01:50 AM.
