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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Awhile back I remember a thread about a clunk being caused by to much play at the rear transmission bushing. I have a 94 that has a clunk when shifting hard to second. Today I discovered that the tail shaft has a good bit of play. How much play is acceptable and what is involved in replacing the bushing? Thanks
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I do not know the exact amount of play that is too much. I put a new bushing in the case of every trans I assemble. I will go outside and measure Nico's fresh trans. TOTAL trans dissassembly is nescessary to replace it.
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I have 2 fresh rebuilds in the garage. Both have new case bushings. Up and down movement is about .025. I have another about to be rebuilt 700,with approx 75k since it's last bushing change(rebuild) It has about .060 up and down play. Based on the wiggle test., the latter seems to be about 1/2 shot, in my opinion. I would be worried if it was more than 1/8 inch (.125) This is just my opinion though. There is no spec in the manual to justifly my statements.
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Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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pete, Thanks for the info. I don't think mine is anywhere near an 1/8" but I will measure it on Monday when I'm back under it.
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pete, Thanks for the info. I don't think mine is anywhere near an 1/8" but I will measure it on Monday when I'm back under it.
Also, I am referring to wiggling the actual output shaft with the driveshaft out of the car. Not wiggling the yoke of the driveshaft as it is installed in the tailhousing. I presume we are both talking about the same bushing inspection.
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At this point the driveshaft is still in the car and there is some movement. Should I remove it to measure the shaft movement?
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At this point the driveshaft is still in the car and there is some movement. Should I remove it to measure the shaft movement?
Yes. You are feeling the play in the u joint plus play between the yoke and tailhousing bushing along with the output shaft and tailshaft bushing play.
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Pete, my trans has a bronze bushing in the tail stock. Is this the bearing you are talking about? If so why would you have to do a dissassembly to put in a new bushing? If you are refering to any of the gear set bearings I see you point.
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Pete, my trans has a bronze bushing in the tail stock. Is this the bearing you are talking about? If so why would you have to do a dissassembly to put in a new bushing? If you are refering to any of the gear set bearings I see you point.
The bushing I was origionally referring to is the bushing that supports the output shaft. This is the one I read off all the specs for. The one in the tailhousing supports the yoke. It is commonly worn and easily replaced. The one in the case can be viewed with the tailhousing removed. Total disassembly required to change the case bushing.
Years ago, I had a vibration I could not find. Turns out it was a spun case (outout shaft) bushing. It ruinded my case, and my week.
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Okay, I got the rear out and the drivie shaft out. The output shaft of the trans definetly has some major play. I noticed that it looks like the tail housing is easily removed. What is involved to replace the bushing. Is it pressed in? Will this tighten the shaft movement? and where can I get a new bushing? GM dealer? Are there any gaskets involved? Thanks
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The bushing that supports the case is pressed into the case. It is driven in from the front. It requires total disassembly of the trans to install. The amount of labor, skill level, and tools involved makes this a job for a pro. Classic case of a $3 part causing a ton of heartburn.If you need help, let me know. I see you are kind of close.

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Would it make any sense to just replace the one in the tail housing that supports the yoke. This would have to be some improvement wouldn't it? I really don't want to drop the trans unless it is absolutely necesary.The car has 80K miles on it. Is this normal wear for that mileage? Thanks
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Would it make any sense to just replace the one in the tail housing that supports the yoke. This would have to be some improvement wouldn't it? I really don't want to drop the trans unless it is absolutely necesary.The car has 80K miles on it. Is this normal wear for that mileage? Thanks
Replacing the bushing in the tailhousing will help the cause. Presumably, it will wear quickly, as it is holding more load than it should. 80k is enough miles to cause the wear you describe, but typically it takes more miles than that to get that bad. The problem with letting it go is it will eventually spin. Then it will ruin the case. If in doubt, I would let a local pro, that you trust, look at it. A hands on opinion may help you decide.
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Pete, Thanks for all of the info. I know someone that I can talk to about this.
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