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Old Mar 8, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
It means adjustable rocker arms. Some motors like the 351C has a bolt that screws the rocker into the stand, those are referred to an "non adjustable".
The factory LT4 engines are non adjustable also, and I believe LSx motors are non adjustables too.
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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Vettef6,

According to their website, these lifter would be made to order for your application... Please don't just take my word for it, though... I am learning, but I certainly am no expert...

TankerVette, I can't find where it says "these lifters will be made to order for your application"
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Sorry, it is a bit of a figure of speech (the "made to order" phrase)...

They do not make custom lifters to fit your specific application.

I have a 230/236 cam with very stiff springs. 143 lbs closed and 375 lbs open. I shift at about 6300-6500 rpm.
Would anyone know if they would work with my combo??


Considering the description of their product vs. the modifications on your car, the Rhodes V-Max lifters should work very well. Certainly the cam, springs, and shift points would not be a problem with these lifters.

I do know that there is a link on their website to email the factory, and they do seem very helpful.

Sorry for any confusion
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Old Mar 9, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TankerVette
Sorry, it is a bit of a figure of speech (the "made to order" phrase)...

They do not make custom lifters to fit your specific application.

I have a 230/236 cam with very stiff springs. 143 lbs closed and 375 lbs open. I shift at about 6300-6500 rpm.
Would anyone know if they would work with my combo??


Considering the description of their product vs. the modifications on your car, the Rhodes V-Max lifters should work very well. Certainly the cam, springs, and shift points would not be a problem with these lifters.

I do know that there is a link on their website to email the factory, and they do seem very helpful.

Sorry for any confusion
Either Hot Rod mag did an article with these lifters useing a TPIS cam, ZL 15
http://www.tpis.com/index.php?module...Cams+%28LS1%29

The Aug 2005 Hot Rod has a LS1 crate motor (w/headers)useing them in a test:
Stock vac- 22 419hp/398tq
ZL 15 cam vac-10" 436hp/461tq
ZL-15 w/Rhoads cold lash .035 vac-15.2" 449hp/457 tq
ZL-15 w/Rhoads hot lash .035 vac 15" 433hp/450tq
Chip tuned useing last set up 445hp/462tq 15.2" vacuum
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Steve, thanks for the info!
I wrote to Rhodes and this is what they wrote back:
The price is $239 for the VMax, plus $10 shipping. The VMax are best because you can adjust the amount of leak down you want. They also have a higher rpm potential. You may also want to pay $259 and get our Super Lube VMax lifters. They inject oil down on the roller and lifter face for better oiling.

What do you fellows think??
Summit is selling them for $209, but these seem to be the standard lifters not the VMax.

Arnold
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by vettef6
Steve, thanks for the info!
I wrote to Rhodes and this is what they wrote back:
The price is $239 for the VMax, plus $10 shipping. The VMax are best because you can adjust the amount of leak down you want. They also have a higher rpm potential. You may also want to pay $259 and get our Super Lube VMax lifters. They inject oil down on the roller and lifter face for better oiling.

What do you fellows think??
Summit is selling them for $209, but these seem to be the standard lifters not the VMax.

Arnold
I would do the V Max. The Chevy oiling system is pretty darn good, IMHO
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I paid the extra for the better lubrication...
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Rhodes wrote "The VMax are best because you can adjust the amount of leak down you want".

How do I know which leak down rate is best for my engine????
Here you can see what I mean, you need a dyno to figure this out:
ZL-15 w/Rhoads cold lash .035 vac-15.2" 449hp/457 tq
ZL-15 w/Rhoads hot lash .035 vac 15" 433hp/450tq
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Originally Posted by vettef6
Rhodes wrote "The VMax are best because you can adjust the amount of leak down you want".

How do I know which leak down rate is best for my engine????
Here you can see what I mean, you need a dyno to figure this out:
ZL-15 w/Rhoads cold lash .035 vac-15.2" 449hp/457 tq
ZL-15 w/Rhoads hot lash .035 vac 15" 433hp/450tq
The article explained allot about them doing the different lashes. I have to go home and lok at it though. I may be able to scan it , and email you the article.
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Originally Posted by steve40th
The article explained allot about them doing the different lashes. I have to go home and lok at it though. I may be able to scan it , and email you the article.
Steve, that would be great!!

If you look at these two dyno results, this just can't be true; 16 HP more when adjusted cold!! Why didn't they leave this cold set up and then chip tune the engine??
They have less HP with the hot set up and chip tuned, as adjusted cold!!
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Originally Posted by vettef6
Steve, that would be great!!

If you look at these two dyno results, this just can't be true; 16 HP more when adjusted cold!! Why didn't they leave this cold set up and then chip tune the engine??
They have less HP with the hot set up and chip tuned, as adjusted cold!!
Yes it leaves some questions. But, its a magazine to try and sell parts too. Also, sells TPIS products and tuning.
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Default The nature of Rhodes Lifters

Rhodes Lifters simply gives you full lift at about 3000+ RPM. At lower RPM you do not get full lift, therefore you can run an agressive cam and not have idle problems. At Idle it will decrease the LOPE effects of the CAM giving you the ultimate sleeper Setup.
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