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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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Default Rhodes V-max Lifters...

...apparently kick butt!!!!

Not 100% sure that all the improvement was due to the lifters, but...

-A persitent ticking sound is gone...
-Idle problem is gone...
-Seems to have better feel at tip-in...
-The sound kicks!!

These guys are adjusted like solid lifters, so I was much more comfortable that I got the rocker arm adjustment right.

If you need lifters, take a good hard look at these. Very pleased!

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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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Sweet! What are the actual lift/duration/LSA numbers? Do you know if they (Rhoades) have a selection of different grinds yet?

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by DanZ51
Sweet! What are the actual lift/duration/LSA numbers? Do you know if they (Rhoades) have a selection of different grinds yet?

damn why u dont post this thread yesterday i would have placed the order, instead i ordered GMPP lifters from summit, let me see if i can cancel order and switch to rhoads lifters, part #RL1158 at summit for 209.99 available on 3/20/06. I can wait i need that low end grunt and lopey idle plus more vaccum. Let me check with pete K our CF member who is building my 383 top end and assembling.

check on Rhoadeslifters.com.

Thanks for sharing buddy. I really like when people share thier success with parts that are seldom ignited. thanks again.
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What i heard is solid lifters should be adjusted every 5000 miles, so rhodes lifters need be adjusted just like solid lifters, also thier website suggest use it with adjustable valvetrain that means only adjustable rocker arms or whole damn valvetrain be adjustable.
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As I understood...

-They are to be adjusted like solid lifters initally, but I do not believe they need to be adjusted every 5000 miles... They are still really hydraulic rollers... suppose I should ask...

-What they meant as far as adjustable drivetrain is simply that you have full rollers rather then OEM stamped... the rollers are adjustable by their nature...

Please correct me if I'm wrong...

Another plus for these things...

I had to have my idle up to 850 RPM... Now she's real happy at 750 RPM, could probably even go a bit lower...

Gotta say I really like 'em so far...
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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danz51, i only got the lifters, not a cam... my cam is listed in my sig...

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 02:41 PM
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Ooops I'm confusing the V Max Lifters with the new Hydra - Solid Cam kit. It's something totally new only for the SBC. I'm dying to find someone with some first-hand experience with it.

http://www.rhodeslifters.com/Hydra-Solid.htm
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I have a 230/236 cam with very stiff springs. 143 lbs closed and 375 lbs open. I shift at about 6300-6500 rpm.
Would anyone know if they would work with my combo??
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TankerVette
-What they meant as far as adjustable drivetrain is simply that you have full rollers rather then OEM stamped... the rollers are adjustable by their nature...
Are you talking about lifters.... or rockers???

BTW, OEM stamped rockers are also "adjustable by their nature".


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They will tame the idle once the oil heats up a bit, seems to have the driveability of a cam with at least 10 degrees less at .050.
If I recall I used to set my hyd. flat tappet rhoads at 3 thou. Never had to readjust them over the 2 years I flogged the car. Instructions are included, its been a long time for me so that figure may be accurate. If you try to adjust them like an OE lifter, the valves will hang open and the car will never even start. Self discovery
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
They will tame the idle once the oil heats up a bit, seems to have the driveability of a cam with at least 10 degrees less at .050.
If I recall I used to set my hyd. flat tappet rhoads at 3 thou. Never had to readjust them over the 2 years I flogged the car. Instructions are included, its been a long time for me so that figure may be accurate. If you try to adjust them like an OE lifter, the valves will hang open and the car will never even start. Self discovery
I had Rhoades lifters, in a Big Block, and adjusted them 1/4 turn past zero. Worked great for 3 years. The cam was 244 at .050, Hydraulic, 11 to 1 compression, with an automatic, and it diled at 900rpm.
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How the....Tried that on a 396 I had, no compression. Set it the way they recommended, worked like a charm . Used the 3 thou on my 460, was perfect?
396 Used an Isky 280 Megacam, 460 had a Comp 280 Nitrous cam
[ shrug] hmm.
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Larry,

It confused me a bit... Asked the rep what he meant about "adjustable valve train". He said as long as I have roller rockers, I'm cool...

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what an "adjustable valve train" would encompass? Doesn't seem to be a lot open to adjustment there...

Vettef6,

According to their website, these lifter would be made to order for your application... Please don't just take my word for it, though... I am learning, but I certainly am no expert...

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I have them, and love them... no adjustment needed thus far...

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Tanker, All of our engines have an adjustable valvetrain. Thats what the nut in the center of the rocker is for. A fixed valvetrain would be where you have all of the rockers on a shaft, you bolt on the shaft, and there is no easy way to raise or lower the height of an individual rocker.
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
How the....Tried that on a 396 I had, no compression. Set it the way they recommended, worked like a charm . Used the 3 thou on my 460, was perfect?
396 Used an Isky 280 Megacam, 460 had a Comp 280 Nitrous cam
[ shrug] hmm.
If you are referring to me, this was in 1986 with there hydraulic flat tappet camshaft lifters. Why did it work, I dont know. But it did. I was thinking of uesing these on my LT1, very tempting, but finances....mortgage......
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Originally Posted by TankerVette
does anyone know what an "adjustable valve train" would encompass? Doesn't seem to be a lot open to adjustment there...

As fastmax said, every small block's valve train is adjustable.
In fact, EVERY engine has an adjustable valve train; some you adjust with a screw adjuster on the rocker tips, some my moving the rockers up and down (SBC), some by inserting or removing shims between the cam lobe and the valves.
I can't imagine what your vendor was trying to tell you.

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Originally Posted by sami85L98
What i heard is solid lifters should be adjusted every 5000 miles, so rhodes lifters need be adjusted just like solid lifters, also thier website suggest use it with adjustable valvetrain that means only adjustable rocker arms or whole damn valvetrain be adjustable.
It means adjustable rocker arms. Some motors like the 351C has a bolt that screws the rocker into the stand, those are referred to an "non adjustable".
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Thanks for the info... I'll become an expert yet...
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