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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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When I run hard on the track, my power steering gets very noisy and when I remove the resevoir lid there is a lot of air that escapes. I assumed my fluid was getting to hot. I've replaced the power steering fluid with synthetic to see if that cures the problem, but I was wondering if there is something else I should be looking for.

I don't feel any degradation in performance, it just gets really noisy.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by CrvtBB
When I run hard on the track, my power steering gets very noisy and when I remove the resevoir lid there is a lot of air that escapes. I assumed my fluid was getting to hot. I've replaced the power steering fluid with synthetic to see if that cures the problem, but I was wondering if there is something else I should be looking for.

I don't feel any degradation in performance, it just gets really noisy.
High RPM = high volume of fluid and lots of pressure. Eventually that combination blew my PS pump. Some people go to a bigger pulley to lessen volume. I instead sent off a reconditioned pump to turnone in michigan - they revalve it for lower volume, I think they also put in heaby duty seals. You loose a little ease of steering at low speeds - but it solved the problem at the track - I think I have a little better feel at high speeds.

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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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I really like the Lucas power steering additive. You may want to try some of that with the change to SYN. Other than that I am of no help....lol.. good luck,
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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I really like the Lucas power steering additive. You may want to try some of that with the change to SYN. Other than that I am of no help....lol.. good luck,
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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Lucas won't work long term - at least it didn't for me. solve the problem insted of masking it with goo that sludges up the fluid!

Carl "I know - I tried it - twice!!" Johansson
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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Is a PS cooler a viable alternative?
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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Is a PS cooler a viable alternative?
The '92 already has a PS fluid cooler.
I wonder how difficult it would be to replace it with a larger/more efficient one?

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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Johansson
Lucas won't work long term - at least it didn't for me. solve the problem insted of masking it with goo that sludges up the fluid!

Carl "I know - I tried it - twice!!" Johansson
Lucas is not 'masking it with goo' approach, least not if you are draining and refilling the system. Just to add Lucas is NOT a fix, but adding it to new synthetic p/s fluid is a good idea. We all know pressure cases heat and heat breaks down oils. Lucas is more heat resistant than p/s synthetic alone. Especially important if spending time on the track as the constant turning causes the p/s to work harder=heat=fluid breakdown. A larger p/s cooler would certainly be big help, but costs lot more than a fluid change for the occassional track day.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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You are probably right. I am posting my personal experience - I had a PS pump acting up, Groaning foaming, belching out fluid! . At the suggestion of many in this forum I switched out to synthetic fluid with Lucas added - did it 2 times - guess what - didn't work for me.

Granted my application is harder on the PS system than probably 90% of the vette owners her. 3 - 6 hours of high speed track time over the span of 2 days tends to test parts to the extreme.

As for the goo comment - look at Lucas as compared to the synthetic fluid - it is much more viscous - I call it goo - designed to thicken up your PS fluid - you call it a high tech addative - designed to thicken up your synthetic PS fluid.

Essentially - if you don't have a problem - and add it - guess what - you don't have a problem. But if you do have a problem - maybe it will work - but maybe it won't!

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Originally Posted by aminnich
Lucas is not 'masking it with goo' approach, least not if you are draining and refilling the system. Just to add Lucas is NOT a fix, but adding it to new synthetic p/s fluid is a good idea. We all know pressure cases heat and heat breaks down oils. Lucas is more heat resistant than p/s synthetic alone. Especially important if spending time on the track as the constant turning causes the p/s to work harder=heat=fluid breakdown. A larger p/s cooler would certainly be big help, but costs lot more than a fluid change for the occassional track day.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Johansson
You are probably right. I am posting my personal experience - I had a PS pump acting up, Groaning foaming, belching out fluid! . At the suggestion of many in this forum I switched out to synthetic fluid with Lucas added - did it 2 times - guess what - didn't work for me.

Granted my application is harder on the PS system than probably 90% of the vette owners her. 3 - 6 hours of high speed track time over the span of 2 days tends to test parts to the extreme.

As for the goo comment - look at Lucas as compared to the synthetic fluid - it is much more viscous - I call it goo - designed to thicken up your PS fluid - you call it a high tech addative - designed to thicken up your synthetic PS fluid.

Essentially - if you don't have a problem - and add it - guess what - you don't have a problem. But if you do have a problem - maybe it will work - but maybe it won't!

carl - "it didn't work for me!" Johansson
plus I would like to have just one hour track time for fun. Oh well, can't have everything.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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plus I would like to have just one hour track time for fun. Oh well, can't have everything.
You can,
There are several tracks down by you somewhere. Just find out who is holding a HPDE - and contact them. Go over in the roadrace/autoX section of this forum - they have links to track events all over the country - and lots of people willing to help you get started!

it's not that hard to get started The problem is stopping once you start going to these events - they are addicting!
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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I had TurnOne rebuild my pump. Problem solved.

FWIW, they have great customer service as well. They used a reman core (that I sent them) for the initial build. After 3 tries (including a new ps pump shaft and all new seals), the thing still leaked within a few miles of installation. Figuring they had already gone "above and beyond", I was prepared to buy another pump for them to start with. However, with no questions asked, they exchanged the bad one for another which has been perfect.
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