Low profile super charger
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Burning Brakes
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From: Augusta GA
Low profile super charger
I am going to have a carb here in a day or two as I just changed over from a superram. Please no flaming about that part, anyway, I was looking to put a super charger or blower on top. What kind of kits are out there for a low profile set up. I want to be able to clear the hood. TIA
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Zero Options that I have ever seen for that - by going to a carb, you really eliminated those options w/ out MAJOR fabrication.
Had you kept the Superram, a centrifugal s/c might have been adapted w/ relative ease.
Good luck though - you didn't like my efi offerings so this may mean nothing to you as well...
Had you kept the Superram, a centrifugal s/c might have been adapted w/ relative ease.
Good luck though - you didn't like my efi offerings so this may mean nothing to you as well...
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Burning Brakes
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From: Augusta GA
I have seen superchargers on carbs rather carbs on superchargers. I believe an intake swap maybe in order. What kind of mods would I have to do and why would they be major? You did help on superram thing but there is more to it then I could have ever explained.
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Originally Posted by red_johnny
I have seen superchargers on carbs rather carbs on superchargers. I believe an intake swap maybe in order. What kind of mods would I have to do and why would they be major? You did help on superram thing but there is more to it then I could have ever explained.
In your original thread, you said:
I want to be able to clear the hood. TIA
My old room mate had a B&M SuperVette back in 1988 - it used a B&M Roots blower w/ a 4 injector efi sys. and resided under the factory 1988 hood.
The problem is going to be the clearance of the carb and aircleaner which I am not sure how you will even get that under your stock hood as most I have seen, have a big 'ol hole cut into them
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go with a procharger. they make a universal carb supercharger kit for what you are looking for. the only problem i can think of is the fuel system needs to be changed along with a custom built blow-through carb. Another thing is that Procharger sells 3 different profiles of carb hats. So clearance shouldn't be an issue as far as carb hat clearance.
Also the kit is meant for a different kind of belt set-up aswell. Your powersteering system and alternator would have to be moved most likey to use this kit as it was intended to be. Check out a dealer for these kits and you'd be suprised at the price for the kit. For the base P600B Procharger kit is around $2300 if i remember right. But that doesn't include the fuel pump,regulator and custom carb.
Also the kit is meant for a different kind of belt set-up aswell. Your powersteering system and alternator would have to be moved most likey to use this kit as it was intended to be. Check out a dealer for these kits and you'd be suprised at the price for the kit. For the base P600B Procharger kit is around $2300 if i remember right. But that doesn't include the fuel pump,regulator and custom carb.
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Originally Posted by red_johnny
Crap. I dont want to have to cut the hood. What about a high rise hood? Maybe a 3 or 4 inch cowl?
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Burning Brakes
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From: Augusta GA
I talked to the mechanic today and he did say about a single plane but I cant remember if it was a xcelerator intake or not. I was talking with him for almost a half hour. He also said about getting a procharger. Hell, if that will work then maybe with my next tax return....
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Don't know if it's still available but years ago I used a B&M blower with Mikuni side draft carbs on a 1976 Vette. It was able to clear the big block hood. At the time Mikuni had very good tech support and the jets were easily changed.
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Blowers
Weiand 144-177 may be the answer you are looking for because they are making brand news low profile blowers for a carb application. You are going to need a hood for sure. Also check into the pulley situation because you may have to do some swapping. Another option might be buying a used B&M mini blower 142 or buy a Holley mini blower if they are still making them. You could go with a Vortech carb hat enclosure blower also but clearance again will be an issue and at the minimum will require a hood.
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From: Augusta GA
Thanks Sam for the input! I am looking at doing this project during tax return time next year. But I allways like to research far out in advance so I know then what I want. Sometimes situations dont allways allow me to do this as per the whole carb situation. Anyway, I will research those set ups. Thanks
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From: Mount Vernon OH
Originally Posted by red_johnny
Thanks Sam for the input! I am looking at doing this project during tax return time next year. But I allways like to research far out in advance so I know then what I want. Sometimes situations dont allways allow me to do this as per the whole carb situation. Anyway, I will research those set ups. Thanks
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From: Timra, Sweden
What about an old MOON Cross-Ram with four Webers/Dellortos?
Some dellortos can be used with boost.
This is a low profile twin turbo on a C3 Corvette.
http://www.crossfire.webhop.net/twinnie
Some dellortos can be used with boost.
This is a low profile twin turbo on a C3 Corvette.
http://www.crossfire.webhop.net/twinnie
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From: Mount Vernon OH
Originally Posted by red_johnny
I am going to have a carb here in a day or two as I just changed over from a superram. Please no flaming about that part, anyway, I was looking to put a super charger or blower on top. What kind of kits are out there for a low profile set up. I want to be able to clear the hood. TIA
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Hey that's my engine The manifold is not a moon crossram, it's a copy but has the runner pairs spaced further apart. It's a custom cast (1 off) same for the exhaust logs (they are not banks manifolds) The carbs are Dellorto DHLA45M tri jet pressure tight carbs off a US spec Lotus Esprit Turbo (the esprit has 2, US spec = 45mm carbs) they are pressure tight up to 3 bar.
This is the same stuff:
The manifold is not a moon crossram, it's a copy but has the runner pairs spaced further apart. It's a custom cast (1 off) same for the exhaust logs (they are not banks manifolds) The carbs are Dellorto DHLA45M tri jet pressure tight carbs off a US spec Lotus Esprit Turbo (the esprit has 2, US spec = 45mm carbs) they are pressure tight up to 3 bar.This is the same stuff: