Carb and Victor Jr.
Melting Slicks
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From: Howard PA
Why would you "plan" to buy a C4 and then remove the EFI system? Are you going to build a drag car or something? Have you thought about all that might be involved in that? The EFI system works well and offers better driveability than a carb, not to say a carb can't be tuned well.
Filling out your profile would be a big help.
Filling out your profile would be a big help.
Last edited by ALLT4; Sep 11, 2006 at 02:45 AM.
Drifting
Joined: May 2005
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From: Tomahawk WI
What allt4 said. The carb will breathe better at high revs but the EFI is great for normal driving and cold starts, much better than the carb IMHO.*
* That said, I converted to carb for my own reasons, racing included.
* That said, I converted to carb for my own reasons, racing included.
Instructor
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From: Bettendor Iowa
Originally Posted by SilverDove
Hi everybody!
I'm planning of buying a C4 and I have this question:
Will Edelbrock Victor Jr. and a carburetor fit under the hood? What about filter size?
I'm planning of buying a C4 and I have this question:
Will Edelbrock Victor Jr. and a carburetor fit under the hood? What about filter size?
I've heard of some guys using the Torquer Manifold as well, but I have no experience with that one.
Pro
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From: Akron Pa
Originally Posted by Jansenwins
No, that intake will not fit. In terms of edelbrock intakes, most of us that have made the conversion are using the Performer Intake manifold. This will JUST fit under the hood with a Holley Carb and 3 inch tall air filter.
I've heard of some guys using the Torquer Manifold as well, but I have no experience with that one.
I've heard of some guys using the Torquer Manifold as well, but I have no experience with that one.
I am running the Victor Jr #2975 intake with a 1/8" plate under a Barry Grant 650. the air cleaner is a 1 1/4" drop base with an Accel 14 x 2.25 soon to be replaced by a Summit racing 14 x 2 K&N style filter with an X-Stream flo filtered top.
the tightest clearnace is at the front edge of the air filter with (as best as i can tell using the ply dough ball trick) 1/4" clearance under the factory hood
Someday, if $$$ allows, I would like to go with a high rise hood but for know this is getting it done!
SilverDove, PM me with any questions!
Last edited by padrummer1; Sep 11, 2006 at 03:30 PM.
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Instructor
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From: Bettendor Iowa
Originally Posted by padrummer1
I beg to differ...
I am running the Victor Jr #2975 intake with a 1/8" plate under a Barry Grant 650. the air cleaner is a 1 1/4" drop base with an Accel 14 x 2.25 soon to be replaced by a Summit racing 14 x 2 K&N style filter with an X-Stream flo filtered top.
the tightest clearnace is at the front edge of the air filter with (as best as i can tell using the ply dough ball trick) 1/4" clearance under the factory hood
Someday, if $$$ allows, I would like to go with a high rise hood but for know this is getting it done!
SilverDove, PM me with any questions!
I am running the Victor Jr #2975 intake with a 1/8" plate under a Barry Grant 650. the air cleaner is a 1 1/4" drop base with an Accel 14 x 2.25 soon to be replaced by a Summit racing 14 x 2 K&N style filter with an X-Stream flo filtered top.
the tightest clearnace is at the front edge of the air filter with (as best as i can tell using the ply dough ball trick) 1/4" clearance under the factory hood
Someday, if $$$ allows, I would like to go with a high rise hood but for know this is getting it done!
SilverDove, PM me with any questions!
Beautiful car!
Pro
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From: Akron Pa
Originally Posted by Jansenwins
Awesome looking conversion! I stand corrected. Does that thing get enough air? I ran a 2 inch filter and it performs much better with a 3 inch.
Beautiful car!
Beautiful car!
I know it is not the optimum set-up. I should really have more air into that thing but I am working up a fresh air intake idea that might solve the problem.
Rich has done the conversion also and can give TONS of advice and input on getting air in, keeping water cool and putting the power down!
Melting Slicks
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From: Drag racing junkie Va.
Brody, good looking ride.
Glad to see your setup! I'd done some research and picked the same manifold with a 800 BG to play with when I get tired of the EFI. How much clearance from the air cleaner mounting neck on the carb to the hood?
Dave
Glad to see your setup! I'd done some research and picked the same manifold with a 800 BG to play with when I get tired of the EFI. How much clearance from the air cleaner mounting neck on the carb to the hood?
Dave
Pro
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From: Akron Pa
Originally Posted by hookedup
Brody, good looking ride.
Glad to see your setup! I'd done some research and picked the same manifold with a 800 BG to play with when I get tired of the EFI. How much clearance from the air cleaner mounting neck on the carb to the hood?
Dave
Glad to see your setup! I'd done some research and picked the same manifold with a 800 BG to play with when I get tired of the EFI. How much clearance from the air cleaner mounting neck on the carb to the hood?
Dave
Something sticks in my head about 1 7/8" front the top of the fuel level adjustment screw to the bottom of the hood, but I will get out the playdoh and check it!
Pro
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From: Akron Pa
Originally Posted by SilverDove
Thanks Padrummer1, very clean install 
I am going for it
Are you going to use a drop base filter? How about this:
I am going for it Are you going to use a drop base filter? How about this:
I dont think that would work. you have to find out the net height from the carb mounting flange. It might work, put I have a feeling the filters may come up just a bit too far.
The nice thing about that design is the you have more clearance to the side of the carb than to the front, due to the sloping hood line. granted, its a fraction gained, but everything helps!
What I am planning on doing very soon is to get a carb hat from Procharger. They make a low profile hat that can be mounted to face in any direction for more clearance. It has a 3" opening and can be piped to a remote air filter or even to the factory location
There is a very good article on airflow requirements in this months Chevy High Performance Magazine in the Performance Q & A section. I highly recommend picking it up!
Guy converted an IROC to carb and had questions about feeding enogh air to it. Very informative!
Melting Slicks
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From: Drag racing junkie Va.
Brody,
Thanks for checking that out, I'm hoping to have enough room to put a 1" HVH tapered spacer under the carb if I have clearance. Since it's a race application I don't have to run an aircleaner but I would like the aircleaner base on there.
Dave
Thanks for checking that out, I'm hoping to have enough room to put a 1" HVH tapered spacer under the carb if I have clearance. Since it's a race application I don't have to run an aircleaner but I would like the aircleaner base on there.
Dave
