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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 04:29 AM
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Gday people. I had the coolant filler cap off the surge tank on my 94 today and noticed that it blows little bubbles out of the tube that comes from the top right side of the radiator. They are very small, not constant, but resonably consistant, ive never taken any notice before to see it do this, the only other times ive looked is when ive flushed and filled the coolant, in which case ive never thought anything of it.

Is this a normal sort of thing??? (as i say, ive never taken any notice to any of them before!!)

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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 04:42 AM
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My take is that it doesn't sound like a good thing, I'll run my 93 later today to see if it does anything similar. Are you are talking about the translucent overflow tank near the right front, or the surge/fill reservoir mounted up high near the cowl?
You could try one of the combustion gas analyzers that attach to the coolant fill cap, the fluid changes color if there is combustion gas present. If it is, the likely culprit would of course be a head gasket. Good luck Casey.
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Thanks mate yeah, the surge tank up at the firewall. Let me know what yours does
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Thanks mate yeah, the surge tank up at the firewall. Let me know what yours does
Will do, another thing you might want to do would be to check it cold to see if there is any difference. I'll look at mine both ways and let you know what I see.
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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So head gasket eh? Anything else it could possibly be???
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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Isn't there a dye that can be added to the coolant to detect combustion by-products that are disolved in the coolant from a head gasket failure??
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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Is that all the symptoms? not overheating, coolant in oil, loss of coolant? not so sure you're not just seeing the normal effects of circulation.
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Originally Posted by tomtom72
Isn't there a dye that can be added to the coolant to detect combustion by-products that are disolved in the coolant from a head gasket failure??
Not sure mate, i think so, but not sure.
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Is that all the symptoms? not overheating, coolant in oil, loss of coolant? not so sure you're not just seeing the normal effects of circulation.
Not over heating at all, sits at a nice even 86-88*c while in motion, no water in the oil (i just changed that today), potential loss of coolant, i am not sure, i added a bit of water last week, but that might be from normal evaporation. It may be the normal effects of circulation, its a pretty consistant sort of thing, doesnt seem to change with temp. Its not using any more oil than the GM service manual says is to be considered normal. It isnt running as well as i believe it should and never has since ive owned it, but this could be put to a couple other things too. (such as ECM set at factory tune while engine is not stock, and also O2 sensors are positioned in such a way that they only see exhaust gas from 2 cylinders per bank due to the tri-Y long tubes)
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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you should be over heating and loosing coolant and to answer your question on others possible cause a wraped head but then youll have a head gasket go to
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Not necessarily. A small leak could allow the bubbling with no loss of coolant. The cylinder pressure is higher than the cooling system pressure. If it tests positive for CO in the coolant, a head gasket is the most likely cause. There is always the remote possibility of a cracked head or block. In any case, if it is a gasket, checking for a warped head and block should be part of the procedure.

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Not necessarily. A small leak could allow the bubbling with no loss of coolant. The cylinder pressure is higher than the cooling system pressure. If it tests positive for CO in the coolant, a head gasket is the most likely cause. There is always the remote possibility of a cracked head or block. In any case, if it is a gasket, checking for a warped head and block should be part of the procedure.

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Yeah mate thats what id have thought too. I wouldnt have expected to be losing coolant with such a minor bubbling, the bubbles are no bigger than 2mm maybe 2.5mm. How am i going to test for CO in the coolant?
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There is a test kit available at the parts stores. I have never done it, personally, but there is a chemical you add to the coolant or a litmus paper type of device that indicates the presents of exhaust gases in your coolant.

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Thanks mate, ill have to look into that. Might be hard to get something like that here.
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Itsy-Bitsy bubbles? Cavitation from the water pump impellers causes itsy-bitsy bubbles.
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I wouldn't expect the CO detector to be hard to find. It IS a general automotive diagnostic tool, not a Corvette or American car specialty item.

Casethecorvetteman doesn't say, specifically, but it appears the bubbles are being seen at idle. I wouldn't expect cavitation at idle speeds. Tiny Bubbles? Where is Don Ho when you need him?

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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
I wouldn't expect the CO detector to be hard to find. It IS a general automotive diagnostic tool, not a Corvette or American car specialty item.

Casethecorvetteman doesn't say, specifically, but it appears the bubbles are being seen at idle. I wouldn't expect cavitation at idle speeds. Tiny Bubbles? Where is Don Ho when you need him?

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If he's still alive, tiny bubbles man, Don Ho, is still in Hawaii, swaying to the palm trees with the hula girls. Hey, that can't be all bad, can it? Oh ,sorry, completely off the Corvette topic. Sorry Casey.
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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
I wouldn't expect the CO detector to be hard to find. It IS a general automotive diagnostic tool, not a Corvette or American car specialty item.

Casethecorvetteman doesn't say, specifically, but it appears the bubbles are being seen at idle. I wouldn't expect cavitation at idle speeds. Tiny Bubbles? Where is Don Ho when you need him?

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Yeah mate, at idle indeed.
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Head gasket has pin holes in it.
Go to a radiator place and get them to pressure test it, and/or analyse the coolant for oil contamination.
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Ok, itsy-bitsy and Don Ho aside I still don't think you have a problem. You said the small hose from top of radiator, correct? What was your coolant temperature when you saw this?
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Ok, itsy-bitsy and Don Ho aside I still don't think you have a problem. You said the small hose from top of radiator, correct? What was your coolant temperature when you saw this?
Yep, small one going from top of radiator to surge tank. It did it from cold start right up to about 60-70*C. Does yours do it too??
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