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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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Does anyone have experience with the Gorillachipz? I hace a stock LS1 with 92,000 on it. The chip claims to give an additional 36 to 58 mor HP with any intake. Since air flow is the key to performance, I wonder how well it can actually work without me making the flow improvements.
Are these devices legit? Do the create any unforseen problems that I may not be aware of? I certainly don't want to damage my computerized system. Can the chip be removed and the settings returned to normal?
What am I missing here?
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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don't waste your money there, go to Alvin at pcmforless for your chip. I've never seen just a chip make anywhere near that performance increase on a stock unit
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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If a chip would make such a diff. don't you think the General would have put a switch on the dash for that boost?

Save your money. Its like the air foil 15hp or the T/B bypass 10hp etc.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 12:11 PM
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more snake oil

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/forum...ad.php?t=58712
http://www.hondacivicforum.com/m_205140/tm.htm
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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Thanks for the input. I fugured it was too god to be true. The best improvement would be a larger cold air intake and throttle body up front and exhaust system upgrade? Is there any validity with the external programmers available?
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They should be sued for claims like that.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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LS1 cars don't use chips, lol. If he is selling a chip for LSX engines, I'd love to see him install one.
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Originally Posted by dheiser
Thanks for the input. I fugured it was too god to be true. The best improvement would be a larger cold air intake and throttle body up front and exhaust system upgrade? Is there any validity with the external programmers available?
Larger TB no, cold air intake would be an improvement but they dont make the power they are claimed to make.

Exhaust yes, and the programmers are not useful in terms of engine performance improvement. They are capable of improving shifts in an automatic, and in changing fan settings.
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Originally Posted by neat
LS1 cars don't use chips, lol. If he is selling a chip for LSX engines, I'd love to see him install one.



Actually his profile shows a 94 which would be a LT1. But, none the less it does not use a replaceable chip. You would need to have the computer reprogrammed. Again, talk to www.pcmforless.com They offer excellent service and are honest about gains etc.
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Thanks again for the input. And you are right , it's an LT1.
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Old Oct 26, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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They should be sued for claims like that.
all they legaly have to do is make a lab engine produe those numbers once now there is no way that the engine in the car will make the same power on a test stand
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Originally Posted by neat
LS1 cars don't use chips, lol. If he is selling a chip for LSX engines, I'd love to see him install one.

I think this is one of those cheap "high performance chips" that is basically just a resistor that plugs into a connector somewhere. Not really a chip or pgramming at all.

a couple of the guys on the mustang forum I posted a few posts up explained it simply:

Appears to be a 4.6K resistor. Available for <$1 at your local Radio Crack.
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It alters the voltage coming from your intake air temperature sensor and makes the EEC think your incoming air is colder than it really is, which means it leans out the mixture.
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It alters the voltage coming from your intake air temperature sensor and makes the EEC think your incoming air is colder than it really is, which means it leans out the mixture.

that would be richer, duh
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It alters the voltage coming from your intake air temperature sensor and makes the EEC think your incoming air is colder than it really is, which means it leans out the mixture.

that would be richer, duh
Hey I didn't say it, that was from a Mustang owner
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I don't think it would do anything to the mixture. In all the car tuning software I've seen, IAT only affects timing, not injector pulse width.

The resistor is most commonly used on forced induction or nitrous set-ups to lower timing when the builder doesn't have the capability to tune the ECM. On the flip side, some guys use the resistor to make the ECM think the incoming air is below XX temp, which allows full timing advance. Regardless, messing with the IAT sensor will never net any performance gains greater than a cool evening will.
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