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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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I may have posted this before but I honestly can't remember...I am thinking of having an x-pipe installed...the reason is I'd like a bit more grunt on the dig...I race a lot of big money 1/8 mile events and this would help...

I have a stock motor in my 93 with long tubes, no emissions back to stock mufflers...open intake, 52MM TB, beefed up trans with Transgo full race and a 3200 stall Vigilante...also a Dana 44 with 3:73's..

The question is will an x-pipe give me anything to speak of for the cost?...
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I put one on my 96 LT4 last spring. Best money I have ever spent!

Not only do they make your Vette faster, but they smooth out the exhaust tone.

Do a search here and I am sure you will find other folk's comments.

Good Luck!
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Originally Posted by TorchRedlt4man
I put one on my 96 LT4 last spring. Best money I have ever spent!

Not only do they make your Vette faster, but they smooth out the exhaust tone.

Do a search here and I am sure you will find other folk's comments.

Good Luck!

what about "reasonance"?
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TorchRedlt4man
I put one on my 96 LT4 last spring. Best money I have ever spent!

Not only do they make your Vette faster, but they smooth out the exhaust tone.

Do a search here and I am sure you will find other folk's comments.

Good Luck!
What he said.... We all have our preferences on mufflers, we argue about header types but we all pretty much agree that the X-pipe works. I recently installed a center muffler with an integral X-pipe and the difference in response in the low and mid ranges is like night and day. I also installed a crossover on my previous PE system and the results were the same. The X pipe is just a better version of the old crossover or 'H' pipe.
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dice
I may have posted this before but I honestly can't remember...I am thinking of having an x-pipe installed...the reason is I'd like a bit more grunt on the dig...I race a lot of big money 1/8 mile events and this would help...

I have a stock motor in my 93 with long tubes, no emissions back to stock mufflers...open intake, 52MM TB, beefed up trans with Transgo full race and a 3200 stall Vigilante...also a Dana 44 with 3:73's..

The question is will an x-pipe give me anything to speak of for the cost?...
Fuzzy, go with the x-pipe. I dont know what gains it will give but it sure made a difference when I added my EM headers with the X and Corsa mufflers. All the new performance cars are using it. I look forward to the day when you open that wallet up to do H/C swap. I think you owe it to yourself.
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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Thanks everyone...guess I need to do this...

Bobby...I would have done the H/C already but I had a setback with the hurricanes and then this annoying little medical deal...oh well, someday...lol
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www.advancedautocc.com a Corvette shop in Florida that custom makes X pipes for C4's. My 96 LT4 has a 2 3/4 inch stock cat back and they have a X pipe and 2 3/4 inlets HP mufflers that makes a stock cat back perform better than my 2 1/2 inch Borla I purchased before one of the CF members sent me this web site. A stock LT4 with some bolt on's will not out flow a good after market 2 1/2 cat back but if you go 383 or bigger do the X pipe and mufflers on the 2 3/4 or go for the B&B 3 inch cat back. Melrose Motorsports and Stainless Works make some trick C4 complete exhaust systems too. Hope this helps
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Originally Posted by Corvette Kid
I recently installed a center muffler with an integral X-pipe and the difference in response in the low and mid ranges is like night and day. .
Kid,

What brand and size center muffler did you buy?

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Kid,

What brand and size center muffler did you buy?

Hans
It's a Magnaflow dual in and out muffler. I believe it's a 5 x 8 inch oval or maybe 5 x 9. Check their website under universal mufflers and you'll find several options. This is their narrowest oval dual in and out and is available in 2 1/2 and 3 inch. It fits in the tunnel nicely in the stock LTx resonator location.
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You can buy a pre-made x-pipe or a local exhaust shop should be able to make the x-pipe to your specs. When you start getting over the stock horsepower, the x-pipe will start doing what it is designed to do. That is it will balance the exhaust pressure and add some torque. I don't think an x-pipe will really do anything if you're running a stock setup. Once you start pushing the hp, every bit helps, and I like my x-pipe, just for the change in exhaust tone alone.
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Originally Posted by Irishpilot03
You can buy a pre-made x-pipe or a local exhaust shop should be able to make the x-pipe to your specs. When you start getting over the stock horsepower, the x-pipe will start doing what it is designed to do. That is it will balance the exhaust pressure and add some torque. I don't think an x-pipe will really do anything if you're running a stock setup. Once you start pushing the hp, every bit helps, and I like my x-pipe, just for the change in exhaust tone alone.
Exactly what kind of power do you think they would add to a stock LT1 or LT4? I have an LT4 with long tube headers, no cats, no mufflers, air intake, tb bypass and am making pretty good numbers right now. I am thinking about ditching my stock resonator and H pipe and just having an X pipe put in right behind the headers. what kind of power could i expect from that? How will the sound change? If i have 2.75 inch exhaust should my X pipe be a # inch peice?
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Originally Posted by 1996man
Exactly what kind of power do you think they would add to a stock LT1 or LT4? I have an LT4 with long tube headers, no cats, no mufflers, air intake, tb bypass and am making pretty good numbers right now. I am thinking about ditching my stock resonator and H pipe and just having an X pipe put in right behind the headers. what kind of power could i expect from that? How will the sound change? If i have 2.75 inch exhaust should my X pipe be a # inch peice?
Since the LT4 already has an H pipe, you won't get the dramatic change that a system with no crossover would get. If you are already sans mufflers and take the resonator off, that sucker's gonna be loud! You probably won't score any points with your neighbors.
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Originally Posted by 1996man
Exactly what kind of power do you think they would add to a stock LT1 or LT4? I have an LT4 with long tube headers, no cats, no mufflers, air intake, tb bypass and am making pretty good numbers right now. I am thinking about ditching my stock resonator and H pipe and just having an X pipe put in right behind the headers. what kind of power could i expect from that? How will the sound change? If i have 2.75 inch exhaust should my X pipe be a # inch peice?
I don't have any dyno numbers just for an x-pipe, but I would guess it's not going to be a significant gain over an H-pipe. I replaced my center resonator with an x-pipe and immediately noticed a raspier exhaust tone. I'm running long tubes, no cats, x-pipe and borlas and the car sounded a lot less subdued. Basically an H pipe and X pipe are designed to do the same thing, and that's balance exhaust pressure between the sides. But if you do replace the H pipe, then I would match your 2.75 inch and make sure whoever builds the x pipe knows how to build the center chamber.
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Magnaflow makes a X-pipe. ( Good quality)
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Originally Posted by bobmic93
Magnaflow makes a X-pipe. ( Good quality)

2 1/2 inch dia. or 2 3/4 ?? Magnaflow also makes a polished stainless HP muffler with a 2 3/4 inlet for the 96 LT4 2 3/4. Cut of the resonator and mufflers and you have a killer cat back for much less.
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Originally Posted by 88BlackZ-51
what about "reasonance"?
There is none with the Xpipe Best thing I did to my ride, and
the sound is AWESOME
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No resonance.

I am running stock manifolds & converters.

I had my exhaust man install the following:

Magnaflow X-pipe in place of OEM resonantor (3")

3" aluminized pipe

Magnaflow 3" polished stainless steel mufflers

Magnaflow polished stainless steel tips w/ built in resonators.

Power increase was incredible!

Sound is awesome!

I was driving through one of my parking lots the other day. A fellow comes up to me and asks me "What kind of exhaust do you have?"

I tell him. He tells me the sound is just like the Chevy small blocks used to have in the 60's. Thought that was a pretty good testimony.
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Old Nov 4, 2006 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by TorchRedlt4man
No resonance.

I am running stock manifolds & converters.

I had my exhaust man install the following:

Magnaflow X-pipe in place of OEM resonantor (3")

3" aluminized pipe

Magnaflow 3" polished stainless steel mufflers

Magnaflow polished stainless steel tips w/ built in resonators.

Power increase was incredible!

Sound is awesome!

I was driving through one of my parking lots the other day. A fellow comes up to me and asks me "What kind of exhaust do you have?"

I tell him. He tells me the sound is just like the Chevy small blocks used to have in the 60's. Thought that was a pretty good testimony.

Why 3 inch? Your 96 LT4 exhaust is 2 3/4 except where the resonator and rear mufflers are 2 1/2.
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The outlet of the OEM converters is 3". So, my exhaust is 3" all the way from the front to the rear.

Works for me!
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Originally Posted by TorchRedlt4man
The outlet of the OEM converters is 3". So, my exhaust is 3" all the way from the front to the rear.

Works for me!
You are ready for a 383 or bigger engine now. I was told that going too big with a stock LT would not give you enough back pressure and hurt your gain some until you do some major engine mod's. Did you have a shop do a custom 3 inch or a 3 inch B&B? If you still have stock exhaust manifolds the pipe from the cast manifold to the cat is 2 1/2 inch.
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