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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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1. What makes a engine a Stroker engine ???
2. How come I mainly/only see 383 Stroker's being talked about ???

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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruff Rider
1. What makes a engine a Stroker engine ???

Longer than stock stroke
2. How come I mainly/only see 383 Stroker's being talked about ???
It is relatively inexpensive and proven package.

Just trying to learn, thanks 101st Airborne
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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The short answer:
Strokers are made by switching the crank. The piston diameter is still the same, so you don't have to change the bore.
The 350 engine was made by stroking the 327 small block engine and keeping the bore the same.
The 383 is made by stroking the 350 even more by using the 400 crank that Chevy made to make the small block 400 (a limited production low proformance smog engine). The 400 crank was a stock Chevy part and was an easy way to get more of a stroke.
Making the bore bigger isn't always that easy if you want to make a big change in cubic inches. Cylinder thickness and bores getting too close to each other to get a seal at the head and allowing coolant flow between the cylinders in the block becomes a problem on some engines.
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The short answer:
Strokers are made by switching the crank. The piston diameter is still the same, so you don't have to change the bore.
The 350 engine was made by stroking the 327 small block engine and keeping the bore the same.
The 383 is made by stroking the 350 even more by using the 400 crank that Chevy made to make the small block 400 (a limited production low proformance smog engine). The 400 crank was a stock Chevy part and was an easy way to get more of a stroke.
Making the bore bigger isn't always that easy if you want to make a big change in cubic inches. Cylinder thickness and bores getting too close to each other to get a seal at the head and allowing coolant flow between the cylinders in the block becomes a problem on some engines.
Bob
What can i expect to $$pay$$ if I decide to stroke my 1995 LT1 C4A into a 383 ??? 101st Airborne
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Originally Posted by Ruff Rider
What can i expect to $$pay$$ if I decide to stroke my 1995 LT1 C4A into a 383 ??? 101st Airborne

Depends on the parts you choose. Cast rotating assemblies can be found for under 1K, and forged USA made assemblies can be found for many times that price. Plan on spending another grand (or more) for machine work.

383 LT1 shortblocks can be found from around 2.5K to skys the limit.


Remember if it sounds too good to be true; it probably is.

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Originally Posted by aboatguy
Depends on the parts you choose. Cast rotating assemblies can be found for under 1K, and forged USA made assemblies can be found for many times that price. Plan on spending another grand (or more) for machine work.

383 LT1 shortblocks can be found from around 2.5K to skys the limit.


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So then how does an engine-idiot make a decision in this area ???
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So then how does an engine-idiot make a decision in this area ???
With years of research and questions. If you still do not feel confident enough, don't do it. There is too much money to spend and too much that can go wrong.

If you come to a choice of whether you want to do it yourself or have someone else do it, you're going to have to trust your abilities in whether you can do it or not.

These days, there are a lot of options out there from buying parts and doing it yourself to buying turn key motors.

I think the biggest consideration you have to think about is the budget. Everything starts from there.
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Originally Posted by Ruff Rider
What can i expect to $$pay$$ if I decide to stroke my 1995 LT1 C4A into a 383 ??? 101st Airborne
You can buy stock quality stroker kits for around $700 or so including rings and bearings. I paid around $1700 for all lightweight and forged components for my 388. You can spend much more than that, too. I used an Eagle 3.80" stroke crank, Eagle H-beam 6" rods and SRP +.030" pistons. This price also included my Sealed Power file-fit rings and Clevite bearings for a radiused crank.
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Great write up here.
http://www.wku.edu/~nathan.plemons/h...placement.html

I think I'm going with an all forged 396 short block when the time comes. Probably from these guys.

http://www.golenengineservice.com/ht...rt_blocks.html
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Originally Posted by GTRbob
The short answer:
Strokers are made by switching the crank. The piston diameter is still the same, so you don't have to change the bore.
The 350 engine was made by stroking the 327 small block engine and keeping the bore the same.
The 383 is made by stroking the 350 even more by using the 400 crank that Chevy made to make the small block 400 (a limited production low proformance smog engine). The 400 crank was a stock Chevy part and was an easy way to get more of a stroke.
Making the bore bigger isn't always that easy if you want to make a big change in cubic inches. Cylinder thickness and bores getting too close to each other to get a seal at the head and allowing coolant flow between the cylinders in the block becomes a problem on some engines.
Bob
You do bore a 350 for a 383 stroker.
Bore .030" over and drop in the 400 cid 3.75" stroke crank.

4.030" x 3.75" for you standard stroker 383 cid.
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Originally Posted by Ruff Rider
So then how does an engine-idiot make a decision in this area ???
101st Airborne
Alot of research and hopefully good word of mouth about a few engine builders.
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I see you can make a 402 stroker without a boring out a 350 block. Some local third gen Fbody guy rebuilt his 350 L98 into a 402 by just a hone job and custom parts. Of course his block had very little miles on it so there was no need to go .030 over. He used a 4" crank, custom rods, and a small base circle cam to do the job. This is pretty much a mega stroker for the least amount of $$$, using a 350 block. From what I hear, he's making over 500 rwhp and its a daily driver with a smooth idle. He claims the total cost was just over $4,000 and change. Now that's a clever idea...
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Doesn't GM Performance Parts sell a 383 with a GM garantee?
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 01:35 AM
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Here it is,
A forged steel crank 383 with 425 hp on 92 octane gas. From GM

http://www.gmgoodwrench.com/GMPerfor...8772&engCat=sb
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www.strokermotor.com
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Ah, the ZZ383. Some places also sell the ZZ383 short block so you can truly customize what you want to do with it.
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