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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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Do any of you use these in your radiator. I see that GM recommends it. I wonder why?
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Ive never heard of them? I would say GM reccomends alot of stuff and jacks up the prices because only they produce it. I didnt know they had pellets though. Sealing pellets of copper/aluminum yes but cooling ones? Something to think about. Apparently they are made by the company that makes "Bars Leak sealant".

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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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The idea behind them was to prevent or stop minor leaks due to casting porosity in engine components. They technically are called "Cooling System Seal Tabs, p/n 3634621"

A couple of years ago, GM issued a service bulletin to service techs that recommended discontinuing the use of the pellets . I used them one time for a radiator flush on my 92 and it didn't seem to make any sort of difference but I didn't have any leaks anyway.

An old-time trick to stop minor cooling system leaks is to add a can of pepper. Yep, plain old pepper from your spice rack. The pepper grounds expand when soaked in water and as they move around the cooling system and stop up the leaks.
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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I don't have any leaks. I hate to put that sort of stuff in my cooling system without a good reason. Just flushed it and filled with 50/50 dexcool. I know there is a lot of controversy about Dexcool but the coolant I took out looked fine and the system was clean.
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Hey man. Just a heads up. Dont use tap water. Distilled water only. Tap has minerals in it that eat away at the rubber componets of the radiator.
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Ok you responded to mine with smart*** remarks. I was just trying to be nice and let you in on some help but suit yourself.
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Originally Posted by B!@cK 86 V3tt3
Ive never heard of them? I would say GM reccomends alot of stuff and jacks up the prices because only they produce it. I didnt know they had pellets though. Sealing pellets of copper/aluminum yes but cooling ones? Something to think about. Apparently they are made by the company that makes "Bars Leak sealant".
Mate the stuff he meant is the pellets to help prevent leaks and maintain the cooling system components (i seriously doubt it will stop a leak unless its extremely minor). They put them in on factory fill (as far as i know), and its not for the purpose of jacking up the prices. It will keep the cooling system in good shape, and help to prevent deterioration of the hoses/gaskets/water pump seals etc. They wont harm the system or block it up if they are used properly and the coolant is kept well maintained.
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As a side note....The Bars Leak "Golden Seal" is the powdered equivalent of the GM tablets.
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The instructions on the cooling sealer tabs recommends grinding or curshing them up before adding to the coolant. The tabs are the size of dice and could take a long time to dissolve to where they would work as intended.
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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by lefoy84
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Why so hostal??
He is right though. It's been said not to use tap water.
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Be careful lefoy

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Originally Posted by c4cruiser
The instructions on the cooling sealer tabs recommends grinding or curshing them up before adding to the coolant. The tabs are the size of dice and could take a long time to dissolve to where they would work as intended.
I was thinking the same thing. That's why the Golden Seal from Bars Leaks is so nice, since it's powdered. Cadillac used the pellets at the factory in their aluminum 4.9 engine, but I learned from the Cadillac forum that the Golden Seal was the same stuff, much cheaper, and easier to use.

Using it in my Caddy 4.9 powered Fiero. So far so good.
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I 'think' those pellets are mentioned in the FSM.

Is it possible the 'pellets' reduce the possibly of electrolysis between the iron and aluminum parts encountered inside the coolant system?
Do they affect the 'alkalinity' of the coolant or have any other chemical benefit?

Hope this isn't too far off topic.

I can think of only a couple rubber components that can 'come into contact' with the engine coolant.
1) Water pump seal.
2) Radiator cap seal.
3) Coolant hoses

What minerals are in tap water that will damage the engine or the water pump?

Maybe we shouldn't drink that stuff.

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Old Dec 6, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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My son had a leak in the head of his cavalier. Mechanic friend recommended the Gm pellets, They sealed the leak for over a year ,till he traded it, Jim.
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The packaging warns against inhaling the pellets as they are a 'vegetable extract' (that's pepper) and will cause respiratory distress. They dissolve readily so that's the easy way to get them all into the system (put them into a quart or so of really hot water and shake).
Having worked in an assembly plant (not Corvette or GM) many years ago, I can verify that every auto left the plant with a dog tur_ in the radiator to 'condition' the seals and prevent leaks. To continue....
DuPont tried to make a polymer equivalent to the 'pepper spray' in the late 60's. It worked well for small leaks so long as the system had good pressure (if you're older than dirt like me, you remember the TV ads with a guy puncturing a can of antifreeze and watching the leak stop - Prestone competing product) but the product exaggerated large leaks or any leak when the system wasn't pressurized. My 1956 Chev was one of the DuPont test vehicles. I had to replace the radiator the year after the test and DuPont stopped selling the product soon after.
I use the GM tablets whenever changing the coolant. I'm not a tree hugger though.
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Hey, I've got an endless supply of dog t_rds.
ANy consistency DT's or should I look for a particular 'style'?
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