lOST MY KEYS 1990
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lOST MY KEYS 1990
Ok Lost my keys and Cant find the spares and I cant remember what the resitstance is for this car.
Talked to the dealer and they dont go back to 90 in the records for the vats code, They do have the cut of the key but not the resistance.
I have looked through the achives and have found alot of info cheap places to get keys and what not.
If I had the key I can get the code but im screwed becuase I dont have it.
what im looking for is a alternate way to find out the code.
can I find it through the lock cylinder does it read backwards from the BCM?
Or do I need to buy all 15 keys or does anyone have the reverse reader found here
http://clksupplies.com/shop/product_...roducts_id=944
anyone ever use this or have one?
I only need it once
thanks
johnny
Talked to the dealer and they dont go back to 90 in the records for the vats code, They do have the cut of the key but not the resistance.
I have looked through the achives and have found alot of info cheap places to get keys and what not.
If I had the key I can get the code but im screwed becuase I dont have it.
what im looking for is a alternate way to find out the code.
can I find it through the lock cylinder does it read backwards from the BCM?
Or do I need to buy all 15 keys or does anyone have the reverse reader found here
http://clksupplies.com/shop/product_...roducts_id=944
anyone ever use this or have one?
I only need it once
thanks
johnny
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A well equiped locksmith can find the code. The way it's done is first he makes an extra key with no pellet that will unlock the colum and turn the ignition switch.
Once he has that, he then uses a VATS interrigator device which tries each resistance one by one untill the right one is found. Once he knows the code, he tranfers the cut over to a blank vats key wich does have the correct pellet resistance. A good locksmith will have those on hand also. That's how I did it.
Once he has that, he then uses a VATS interrigator device which tries each resistance one by one untill the right one is found. Once he knows the code, he tranfers the cut over to a blank vats key wich does have the correct pellet resistance. A good locksmith will have those on hand also. That's how I did it.
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BTW, the guy who did it was a local locksmith from right there in Jacksonville, NC that I found out of the local yellow pages while in Lejeune. He came to my storage unit to do the job. My keys got lost in Iraq.
Marine Chevrolet told me the same thing about the code.
Another alternative is to replace the ignition key cylinder with another that comes with it's own key. You'll need a sterring wheel puller and it will cost you a little less. Your choice.
Marine Chevrolet told me the same thing about the code.
Another alternative is to replace the ignition key cylinder with another that comes with it's own key. You'll need a sterring wheel puller and it will cost you a little less. Your choice.
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1079798
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1079587
Here's the two threads from a couple years back when I went through this same situation with my 91. It was a pain in the azz as I hit about every snag you could along the way, but I eventually got it started.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1079587
Here's the two threads from a couple years back when I went through this same situation with my 91. It was a pain in the azz as I hit about every snag you could along the way, but I eventually got it started.
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Id rather avoid the locksmith at all cost
Its not the ignition swap that would be bad I have spares I also have BCMs with matching ingnition cylinder with keys, its getting to the stupid BCM which is burried way back in the dash that is what I need the key to match up to changing the lock cylinder wont do it alone id still need the locksmith to figure out the code
I just dont want to have to tear apart the dash to do this, the car is over at stone bay frezzing its tires off by now!
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and If that means I have to go to radio shack to pick up resistors Im not quite sure how to by pass it that way anyone have a thread Or ill bet theres something in the HOW TO SECTION.
well im off to bed I have a early morning at the range
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Painless sells a little module to bypass the VATS it is like 50 dollars and 3 wires. I would go that route rather than trial and error if it comes down to it. checking with resistors it takes FOREVER.
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Not sure if this is the correct one for your year but I'm sure if you call them they can tell you.
http://www.painlesswiring.com/InfoSe...rchField=64023
http://www.painlesswiring.com/InfoSe...rchField=64023
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Not sure if this is the correct one for your year but I'm sure if you call them they can tell you.
http://www.painlesswiring.com/InfoSe...rchField=64023
http://www.painlesswiring.com/InfoSe...rchField=64023
I couldnt find anything that describes it does it need to match the resistance? or does it kill them all
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You could also get a custom chip for your ecm that bypasses the vats.
You would have no more vats but you would have a custom chip for your car.
depends how inportant the vats are to you.
This post reminded me that I don't know where my spare key is. I better get one cut before I end up in the same boat as you.
You would have no more vats but you would have a custom chip for your car.
depends how inportant the vats are to you.
This post reminded me that I don't know where my spare key is. I better get one cut before I end up in the same boat as you.
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You guys that are telling him to bypass the VATS aren't understanding his problem. You need the VATS resistance in order to bypass it and with out the key you can't determine resistance. Phrogs, make sure you check out my above mentioned threads. I had the same exact problem and actually mine was a bit more complex because a previous owner had installed a new lock cylinder at some point, so even the key cut on file with GM was incorrect. 
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You DO NOT need to know the resistance to use the painless module. just wire it up and it figures it out. dont know how but it does. I put one in my TPI swap into an 84 gmc where i dont have the corvette column or ey and it works. 3 wires on your way.
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I dont know what you guys are talking about a chip in the ECM it doesnt have anything to do with vats
The vats code on a 90 is in the CCM body control module not the ECM
and Im not spending the money to burn a new chip to bypass it, Its cheaper to pay the dealer than burn a new chip for my car.
anyway im going to handle it the cheapest way I can I have the key code, Now I need to get a blank cut and figure out the vats resistance through the CCM
then order 2 of thos nice $4 keys on the webiste I found from one of the other threads!
I love it dealer wants $35 for a regular key I didnt even ask there price on the vats key total BS
The vats code on a 90 is in the CCM body control module not the ECM
and Im not spending the money to burn a new chip to bypass it, Its cheaper to pay the dealer than burn a new chip for my car.
anyway im going to handle it the cheapest way I can I have the key code, Now I need to get a blank cut and figure out the vats resistance through the CCM
then order 2 of thos nice $4 keys on the webiste I found from one of the other threads!
I love it dealer wants $35 for a regular key I didnt even ask there price on the vats key total BS
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